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Post by rlh on Jul 21, 2009 8:56:01 GMT -5
Thank you !!!!!
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Post by stlvufan on Jul 21, 2009 11:33:49 GMT -5
To all those misguided golf fans on this forum: Need I remind you that our Supreme Court, in PGA v. Martin (2001), has ruled that providing a golf cart to a golfer so he does not have to walk between holes is permissible since it "does not alter the essential nature" of the game. This means -- take note here -- that WALKING IS NOT EVEN REQUIRED TO PLAY GOLF. So, we are left with the argument...wait a minute here, I'm trying to find it...I know there is an argument here somewhere...oh, yes, there it is...IT IS HARD TO HIT THAT LITTLE WHITE BALL AND MAKE IT GO WHERE YOU WANT IT TO. Sure, it is difficult to hit a little white stationary ball. But so is trying to throw my empty Propel bottle into the wastebasket in my garage from my work bench. This doesn't make my "Propel Ball" a real sport. A game, maybe. A sport, no. That is a ridiculous example. Throwing your empty Propel bottle into the wastebasket in your garage is also a sport: basketball, which you are emulating (if weakly) when you do that. On the other hand, do you have a 7-footer trying to block your shot when you pitch it? If you miss, will you get benched? Is there a crowd of 5000+ ready to cheer, only to end up groaning as it bounces off the rim of the wastebasket? No? Then shutup. :crazy
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Post by valpo04 on Jul 21, 2009 12:00:19 GMT -5
Is there a crowd of 5000+ ready to cheer, only to end up groaning as it bounces off the rim of the wastebasket? No? Then shutup. You are gonna die if responds "yes!" ...and how awesome would that be?? :dance
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Post by stlvufan on Jul 21, 2009 12:06:59 GMT -5
Is there a crowd of 5000+ ready to cheer, only to end up groaning as it bounces off the rim of the wastebasket? No? Then shutup. You are gonna die if responds "yes!" ...and how awesome would that be?? Then I want pictures and a video on YouTube.
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Post by stlvufan on Jul 22, 2009 9:56:20 GMT -5
Would it be the unassisted triple play?? Nope. It is 100% luck whether you are presented with such an opportunity, I suppose, but pulling it off is mostly, if not totally, a matter of skill. The play I was thinking of was this: Batter has 2 strikes on him. He swings at a pitch and just barely catches it with his bat. Catcher catches it in his glove for the out. Absolutely 100% luck. No skill involved whatsoever. It either happens or it doesn't.
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Post by bbtds on Jul 23, 2009 22:04:22 GMT -5
Nope. It is 100% luck whether you are presented with such an opportunity, I suppose, but pulling it off is mostly, if not totally, a matter of skill. The play I was thinking of was this: Batter has 2 strikes on him. He swings at a pitch and just barely catches it with his bat. Catcher catches it in his glove for the out. Absolutely 100% luck. No skill involved whatsoever. It either happens or it doesn't. You don't think the catcher's reflexes might have something to do with whether he catches it or not? Have you ever seen a foul tip go directly toward the catcher's mitt but get deflected away and not caught because the catcher didn't have the correct reflexive response? Remember every pitch thrown is not a 90-100 mph fastball. Some are 70-80 mph change-ups.
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Post by stlvufan on Jul 24, 2009 10:39:21 GMT -5
The play I was thinking of was this: Batter has 2 strikes on him. He swings at a pitch and just barely catches it with his bat. Catcher catches it in his glove for the out. Absolutely 100% luck. No skill involved whatsoever. It either happens or it doesn't. You don't think the catcher's reflexes might have something to do with whether he catches it or not? Have you ever seen a foul tip go directly toward the catcher's mitt but get deflected away and not caught because the catcher didn't have the correct reflexive response? Remember every pitch thrown is not a 90-100 mph fastball. Some are 70-80 mph change-ups. Actually, you should take it up with Ed Farmer (former major league pitcher). He's the one who asserts this. I simply believe it. I can see where a 70-80 mph change-up -- if any pitch can -- can be tracked with some skill as it skims off the bat, but I certainly believe that a 90-100 mph fastball simply is either caught or it's not based purely on luck. Of course the catcher is going to *try* to catch it. I suppose that reflexes play a role, except that I bet every major league catcher already has the requisite reflexes necessary to make the attempt, or they aren't in the major leagues for more than a pitch or two. But unless you are Hiro from Heroes, there's virtually no skill involved in actually succeeding to catch it. You either do or you don't based on variables that happen too quickly for you to control.
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