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Post by crusaderguy08 on Jan 12, 2011 15:49:25 GMT -5
Virginia Tech Transfer to Join Crusader ProgramValparaiso head coach Homer Drew announced today that Ben Boggs, a 6’4”, 200 lb. guard who previously played at Virginia Tech, has enrolled at Valparaiso and will be joining the Crusader men’s basketball program. “We are very excited to have Ben as part of the Valpo basketball program,” said Drew. “He is a very aggressive player who really reminds us of former player Jake Diebler on the court. Ben has a passion and a love for the game of basketball, and we look forward to working with him.” Boggs appeared in 25 games off the bench as a freshman at Virginia Tech during the 2009-2010 season and saw action in four games this year before making the decision to transfer. A native of Roanoke, Va., Boggs was ranked as high as the No. 26 shooting guard nationally by ESPN out of high school. A First Team All-State, All-Region and All-District selection as a sophomore and a junior at Hidden Valley H.S., Boggs was also named Metro Player of the Year and Roanoke Times Timesland Player of the Year in 2008 as a junior before suffering a season-ending injury early in his senior campaign. "I'm very excited to be coming to Valparaiso University," said Boggs. "When I came up on my visit, I fell in love with the campus, the coaching staff and the players. It felt like a great fit for myself, both on the court with the team's style of play and off the court as well, and I'm excited for the opportunity." (Edited to include the quote from Ben) Virginia Tech Transfer to Join Crusader Program
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Post by agibson on Jan 12, 2011 16:11:23 GMT -5
Interesting! I wonder if he'll be eligible something like Jan 3, 2012? With 2.5 season of eligibility? In the class of 2009 ESPN/Scouts had him as an 87, and the #56 shooting guard. espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/55792/ben-boggs(that was the class from which Valpo got Halvorsen, Broekhoff, Kenney, Wood, and Kurth. And Boggs was rated ahead of any of them, with the 87 overall grade. Harris was a 93 the next year. Edwards is now classed as a 79.) Coming out of high school, his Scouts evaluation is mostly positive (aren't they all?), but does mention "Defensively, he is a bit of a liability.". Looks like he was recruited mostly by mid-majors, and maybe jumped at his one chance for the "big time", to play in the ACC. sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=45919Averaged 17 MPG and 5 PPG in for a stretch of 7 games in December of last year. Played in almost every game. 8.6 MPG, 2.2 PPG overall. 21/26 FT's - not bad. Averaged less than three minutes per game for his four games with the Hokies this year. I wonder what the rest of the story is?
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Post by vu72 on Jan 12, 2011 16:13:16 GMT -5
This guy sounds like Matt Kenney to me. About the same size and also thick, no skinny kid. So we've added a 6'8" guy with experience who should help scoring but doubt he will be a banger, and Boggs, who if he can defend like Jake, will likely fill the Howard Little hole. We've got one more available if everyone stays who still has elligibility. My understading is that he WILL be eligible in December (second semester) of next year, with 2.5 years total available.
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Post by fwalum on Jan 12, 2011 16:15:09 GMT -5
Very interesting... Could make for some good back court tandems his first year. Buggs and Boggs on the floor at the same time???
Buggs, Harris, Kenney, Kurth, Broekhoff and Boggs. Broekhoff is a guard in name only so that would appear to leave us a pretty good group of guards. I hope Boggs proves Virginia Tech as wrong as Cory has Iowa State!
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Post by agibson on Jan 12, 2011 16:18:45 GMT -5
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Post by fwalum on Jan 12, 2011 16:59:10 GMT -5
Interesting! I wonder if he'll be eligible something like Jan 3, 2012? With 2.5 season of eligibility? In the class of 2009 ESPN/Scouts had him as an 87, and the #56 shooting guard. espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/55792/ben-boggs(that was the class from which Valpo got Halvorsen, Broekhoff, Kenney, Wood, and Kurth. And Boggs was rated ahead of any of them, with the 87 overall grade. Harris was a 93 the next year. Edwards is now classed as a 79.) Coming out of high school, his Scouts evaluation is mostly positive (aren't they all?), but does mention "Defensively, he is a bit of a liability.". Looks like he was recruited mostly by mid-majors, and maybe jumped at his one chance for the "big time", to play in the ACC. sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=45919Averaged 17 MPG and 5 PPG in for a stretch of 7 games in December of last year. Played in almost every game. 8.6 MPG, 2.2 PPG overall. 21/26 FT's - not bad. Averaged less than three minutes per game for his four games with the Hokies this year. I wonder what the rest of the story is? This article, College basketball notebook: Ex-Hokie has 3 'firm offers' from January 5th seems to think that if he would play starting January of 2012 he would only have 1 1/2 years of eligibility, (how they came to that conclusion I am unsure, perhaps someone could enlighten me) but that if he waits to enroll this coming summer and does not play until fall of 2012 he would have 2 full years to play. This does not make sense to me. He has only played 1 1/2 years and in fact has only been enrolled at VT for 1 1/2 years..... how does he lose either 1 whole year or 6 months of eligibility? Perhaps this writer is just flat out wrong. Hokiesports.com also says he was.... Ranked the No. 26 shooting guard nationally by ESPN … As opposed to No. 56. Which one is right?
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Post by CO_VU_Fan on Jan 12, 2011 17:11:36 GMT -5
Interesting! I wonder if he'll be eligible something like Jan 3, 2012? With 2.5 season of eligibility? In the class of 2009 ESPN/Scouts had him as an 87, and the #56 shooting guard. espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/55792/ben-boggs (that was the class from which Valpo got Halvorsen, Broekhoff, Kenney, Wood, and Kurth. And Boggs was rated ahead of any of them, with the 87 overall grade. Harris was a 93 the next year. Edwards is now classed as a 79.) Coming out of high school, his Scouts evaluation is mostly positive (aren't they all?), but does mention "Defensively, he is a bit of a liability.". Looks like he was recruited mostly by mid-majors, and maybe jumped at his one chance for the "big time", to play in the ACC. sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=45919 Averaged 17 MPG and 5 PPG in for a stretch of 7 games in December of last year. Played in almost every game. 8.6 MPG, 2.2 PPG overall. 21/26 FT's - not bad. Averaged less than three minutes per game for his four games with the Hokies this year. I wonder what the rest of the story is? This article, College basketball notebook: Ex-Hokie has 3 'firm offers' from January 5th seems to think that if he would play starting January of 2012 he would only have 1 1/2 years of eligibility, (how they came to that conclusion I am unsure, perhaps someone could enlighten me) but that if he waits to enroll this coming summer and does not play until fall of 2012 he would have 2 full years to play. This does not make sense to me. He has only played 1 1/2 years and in fact has only been enrolled at VT for 1 1/2 years..... how does he lose either 1 whole year or 6 months of eligibility? Perhaps this writer is just flat out wrong. Hokiesports.com also says he was.... Ranked the No. 26 shooting guard nationally by ESPN … As opposed to No. 56. Which one is right? Hmmm. 1 1/2 years doesn't make any sense, does it? If enrolled right now, he should be eligible a day or two after finals end in the fall semester - about December 20th or so. If he waits until summer or fall to enroll, he'd be eligible in fall '12. I think he'd still have 2 1/2 years, but ending your eligibility in December doesn't really make sense. I wonder if he could sit out another fall semester, while working toward a masters, and finish out the spring session?
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Post by fwalum on Jan 12, 2011 17:28:26 GMT -5
Hmmm. 1 1/2 years doesn't make any sense, does it? If enrolled right now, he should be eligible a day or two after finals end in the fall semester - about December 20th or so. If he waits until summer or fall to enroll, he'd be eligible in fall '12. I think he'd still have 2 1/2 years, but ending your eligibility in December doesn't really make sense. I wonder if he could sit out another fall semester, while working toward a masters, and finish out the spring session? I agree that 1 1/2 years does not seem right. This article also stated that he was going to wait a couple of months to make a decision. Perhaps they were wrong and he, after making a much quicker selection, has enrolled for this semester and would be eligibly after the 2011 fall semester with two full seasons remaining after the end of the 2011-2012 season? Does anyone know if we have a new student/player on campus? I think he could help right now in day to day preparation. Having another high caliber player to go against in practice every day certainly couldn't hurt.
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Post by crusaderguy08 on Jan 12, 2011 17:32:46 GMT -5
Hmmm. 1 1/2 years doesn't make any sense, does it? If enrolled right now, he should be eligible a day or two after finals end in the fall semester - about December 20th or so. If he waits until summer or fall to enroll, he'd be eligible in fall '12. I think he'd still have 2 1/2 years, but ending your eligibility in December doesn't really make sense. I wonder if he could sit out another fall semester, while working toward a masters, and finish out the spring session? I agree that 1 1/2 years does not seem right. This article also stated that he was going to wait a couple of months to make a decision. Perhaps they were wrong and he, after making a much quicker selection, has enrolled for this semester and would be eligibly after the 2011 fall semester with two full seasons remaining after the end of the 2011-2012 season? Does anyone know if we have a new student/player on campus? I think he could help right now in day to day preparation. Having another high caliber player to go against in practice every day certainly couldn't hurt. That release is pretty clear that he has already enrolled at Valpo.
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Post by humbleopinion on Jan 12, 2011 17:37:47 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, players who transfer from a division I to another DI school lose a year of eligibility, so he would only have a year and a half of eligibility left. I don't know if the half year at a JC would make any sort of difference.
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Post by valpo10 on Jan 12, 2011 17:46:38 GMT -5
They went over stuff like this on ESPN a while back. He will only play with a Valpo uniform on for a year and a half. He lost two full years of eligibility at VT (even though he only played half the season) and he will have to sit until 2nd semester next season to fulfill the NCAA 1 year rule.
I don't understand mid-season transfers. If you transfer at the end of the school year you can use a red shirt during your 1 year sit and save a year of eligibility. So if this kid would have waited a semester and sat all next year will a red shirt, he could learn the system and play a full 2 years.
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Post by vu72 on Jan 12, 2011 18:45:49 GMT -5
They went over stuff like this on ESPN a while back. He will only play with a Valpo uniform on for a year and a half. He lost two full years of eligibility at VT (even though he only played half the season) and he will have to sit until 2nd semester next season to fulfill the NCAA 1 year rule. I don't understand mid-season transfers. If you transfer at the end of the school year you can use a red shirt during your 1 year sit and save a year of eligibility. So if this kid would have waited a semester and sat all next year will a red shirt, he could learn the system and play a full 2 years. This just isn't accurate. Players do not lose any eligibility by transferring and he will be eligible after sitting out 2 semesters. As he has enrolled for the second semester, he will be ineligible for the second semester this year and the first semester next year. Thus, he will be eligible for the second semester next year. As he played 1 and 1/2 years at VaTech, and is allowed four years of playing, he should have 2 1/2 years od eligibility remaining.
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Post by wh on Jan 12, 2011 19:38:32 GMT -5
Hamga was in the same situation when he transferred from UNLV to Valpo. He transferred after the 1st semester of his sophomore year and had 2 1/2 years of eligibility remaining starting at the end of the 1st semester the following year. There's no reason to think it would be any different for Boggs. Here's a Hamga transfer article that confirms this: www.zagsblog.com/2009/01/10/beas-hamga-to-valparaiso/
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Post by valpofan56 on Jan 12, 2011 19:56:08 GMT -5
As long as he was enrolled by the twelfth day of the semester (which if he is already enrolled, he was/is) he will have 2.5 years of eligibility beginning as soon as the Fall 2011 semester ends.
The only way he would lose a year of eligibility by transferring would be if he already redshirted or transferred once before, as he would then be restricted by the NCAA's 5 year rule (5 years to use 4 years of eligibility).
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Post by humbleopinion on Jan 12, 2011 21:11:38 GMT -5
Hamga was in the same situation when he transferred from UNLV to Valpo. He transferred after the 1st semester of his sophomore year and had 2 1/2 years of eligibility remaining starting at the end of the 1st semester the following year. There's no reason to think it would be any different for Boggs. Here's a Hamga transfer article that confirms this: www.zagsblog.com/2009/01/10/beas-hamga-to-valparaiso/The article sounds like he was a redshirt freshman. He played in just five games and then had 2 1/2 years of eligibility left.
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