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Post by valpo04 on Mar 15, 2006 17:58:26 GMT -5
Crusaderjoe brought this up a while ago, and I think it should be voted on by the members. Do you think we should change the Off Topic board to make it a place for "classic" threads? Threads that had say 150 replies, or 1,000 views or were topics that were memorable, etc.?
Vote!
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Post by rick on Mar 15, 2006 18:17:09 GMT -5
Why would we want to remove off-topic? If folks don't wish to read off-topic posts, they don't have to. It doesn't make sense why you are even asking. If folks wish to read stuff here they will; if they don't they won't. What's the harm? Why are you asking whether it should be scrapped at all?
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Post by stlvufan on Mar 15, 2006 18:50:14 GMT -5
I'm with Rick.
The classic threads idea should NOT be a message board. It should be a front page or a blog like it is over on the ORU board.
There is no reason to delete the off-topic board to make room for a classic threads page. Apples and Oranges, guy. Have both.
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Post by crusaderjoe on Mar 15, 2006 19:31:35 GMT -5
Guys,
I think you are missing what I was actually proposing.
I'm not in favor of deleting any message board here or exchanging the off-topic board for the "classic thread" forum.
What I thought was a good idea was that the Admins. could consider adding to the forum jump pulldown menu a "classic threads" forum which could list very popular or funny, etc. threads only. These threads could only be read but not responded to. The point of this forum or this area of the board would be to serve as an archive for very popular or funny threads so that viewers could simply read them in the future for nostalgia's sake. It would not be a place to put all threads that were made.
Say for example I want to read the ORU thread that has over 2,000 views currently on the main Valpo fan forum in six months just to "remember when." As it stands right now, that particular thread would have gotten buried over time and it would be hard to find. With the "classic posts/threads" forum, if this particular thread was chosen to be put there, you could easily find that thread and read it for nostalgia's sake, if you know what I mean.
Again, this was just an idea. I'm not trying to rearrange or exchange anything here.
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Post by rick on Mar 15, 2006 19:37:04 GMT -5
Guys, I think you are missing what I was actually proposing. I'm not in favor of deleting any message board here or exchanging the off-topic board for the "classic thread" forum. What I thought was a good idea was that the Admins. could consider adding to the forum jump pulldown menu a "classic threads" forum which could list very popular or funny, etc. threads only. These threads could only be read but not responded to. The point of this forum or this area of the board would be to serve as an archive for very popular or funny threads so that viewers could simply read them in the future for nostalgia's sake. It would not be a place to put all threads that were made. Say for example I want to read the ORU thread that has over 2,000 views currently on the main Valpo fan forum in six months just to "remember when." As it stands right now, that particular thread would have gotten buried over time and it would be hard to find. With the "classic posts/threads" forum, if this particular thread was chosen to be put there, you could easily find that thread and read it for nostalgia's sake, if you know what I mean. Again, this was just an idea. I'm not trying to rearrange or exchange anything here. Sounds good to me.
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Post by stlvufan on Mar 15, 2006 20:04:59 GMT -5
Guys, I think you are missing what I was actually proposing. I'm not in favor of deleting any message board here or exchanging the off-topic board for the "classic thread" forum. What I thought was a good idea was that the Admins. could consider adding to the forum jump pulldown menu a "classic threads" forum which could list very popular or funny, etc. threads only. These threads could only be read but not responded to. The point of this forum or this area of the board would be to serve as an archive for very popular or funny threads so that viewers could simply read them in the future for nostalgia's sake. It would not be a place to put all threads that were made. Say for example I want to read the ORU thread that has over 2,000 views currently on the main Valpo fan forum in six months just to "remember when." As it stands right now, that particular thread would have gotten buried over time and it would be hard to find. With the "classic posts/threads" forum, if this particular thread was chosen to be put there, you could easily find that thread and read it for nostalgia's sake, if you know what I mean. Again, this was just an idea. I'm not trying to rearrange or exchange anything here. Sounds good to me. Same here.
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Post by fwalum on Mar 15, 2006 20:09:44 GMT -5
If rick and stlvufan think that it is ok then I have to agree with them.
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Post by valpo04 on Mar 15, 2006 20:33:02 GMT -5
Crusaderjoe I miss read your post. I am willing to add a Classic Thread board. As for the Off Topic board, some changes are still necessary. I made it with the intention of having a place for Valpo fans to discuss things outside of sports. I was happy with the "24" threads, they were exactly what I had in mind for this board but outside of those, it hasn't been a forum, it has been Rick posting something semi-controversial. I did not, and still do not want it to be a place for personal diatribes. Rick, please stop with the "I question everything ORU" rants, you can think what you want about ORU, but this is not the place to "research" and you know that posting/attacking the way you do will ruffle their eagle feathers. For future reference, this is an off topic board, not a "lets start controversy" or "invite/invoke arguments" board.
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Post by rick on Mar 15, 2006 21:11:57 GMT -5
Crusaderjoe I miss read your post. I am willing to add a Classic Thread board. As for the Off Topic board, some changes are still necessary. I made it with the intention of having a place for Valpo fans to discuss things outside of sports. I was happy with the "24" threads, they were exactly what I had in mind for this board but outside of those, it hasn't been a forum, it has been Rick posting something semi-controversial. I did not, and still do not want it to be a place for personal diatribes. Rick, please stop with the "I question everything ORU" rants, you can think what you want about ORU, but this is not the place to "research" and you know that posting/attacking the way you do will ruffle their eagle feathers. For future reference, this is an off topic board, not a "lets start controversy" or "invite/invoke arguments" board. You're no fun.
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Post by rick on Mar 16, 2006 9:18:48 GMT -5
Crusaderjoe brought this up a while ago, and I think it should be voted on by the members. Do you think we should change the Off Topic board to make it a place for "classic" threads? Threads that had say 150 replies, or 1,000 views or were topics that were memorable, etc.? Vote! Looks like only 3 people give a crap about this. So it's got to be what YOU want big guy. It's your board.
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Post by rick on Mar 16, 2006 9:25:37 GMT -5
Crusaderjoe I miss read your post. I am willing to add a Classic Thread board. As for the Off Topic board, some changes are still necessary. I made it with the intention of having a place for Valpo fans to discuss things outside of sports. I was happy with the "24" threads, they were exactly what I had in mind for this board but outside of those, it hasn't been a forum, it has been Rick posting something semi-controversial. I did not, and still do not want it to be a place for personal diatribes. Rick, please stop with the "I question everything ORU" rants, you can think what you want about ORU, but this is not the place to "research" and you know that posting/attacking the way you do will ruffle their eagle feathers. For future reference, this is an off topic board, not a "lets start controversy" or "invite/invoke arguments" board. If that's what you had in mind from the beginning, you should have said so. Now you get a little heat from some people and it takes so much of your time to have to deal with it so you decide to pull the rug out from what has already been established as a precedent here. Why can't I do my diatribes? What's it to you? Are you some kind of control freak or is the heat to hot to handle? Or do you think you will look bad to let free speech have it's way on YOUR board? Free speech isn't always pretty to everyone. That's what makes it so precious regardless of who is speaking their mind or about what topic they are discussing. Why do a poll when your mind was already made up? That seems like a cowardly way of garnering "support" for a decision you apparently have already made. So you like the "24" discussions? Is that all you want? Soap opera discussions? You can have that!
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Post by valpo04 on Mar 16, 2006 15:59:00 GMT -5
Can I ask why you post a response to something I say, then go back and brew about it and then post ANOTHER completely DIFFERENT response?
You once again jump to conclusions and seem to think you know my motives and "sneaky" business. I have volunteered to moderate a board that allows you to talk about anything you want in a VALPO SPORTS forum. I ask that you do not start vicious attacks or post controversial threads, if that makes me a power freak, then yes I am, deal with it. I have to read it all to moderate it and frankly I am sick of reading 3 pages of articles that you have dug up bashing ORU. You post with no intentions of having a fair and balanced debate over it, you just like to stir up controversy and pick fights that you KNOW you will win because you will never consider another source or opinion.
If you can't handle this Rick, then I suggest you stop posting for a while.
I would also like to thank you for questioning my integrity.
BTW, what precedent was set? I have asked you before to not post controversial threads.
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Post by rick on Mar 16, 2006 16:14:11 GMT -5
Can I ask why you post a response to something I say, then go back and brew about it and then post ANOTHER completely DIFFERENT response? You once again jump to conclusions and seem to think you know my motives and "sneaky" business. I have volunteered to moderate a board that allows you to talk about anything you want in a VALPO SPORTS forum. I ask that you do not start vicious attacks or post controversial threads, if that makes me a power freak, then yes I am, deal with it. I have to read it all to moderate it and frankly I am sick of reading 3 pages of articles that you have dug up bashing ORU. You post with no intentions of having a fair and balanced debate over it, you just like to stir up controversy and pick fights that you KNOW you will win because you will never consider another source or opinion. If you can't handle this Rick, then I suggest you stop posting for a while. I would also like to thank you for questioning my integrity. BTW, what precedent was set? I have asked you before to not post controversial threads. The precedent was that you allowed it. You even responded early in the ORU thread yourself stating that I was asking whether it was true or not - the stuff about ORU. That thread was ok with you at first. Then you changed your mind. Why? You state that we can talk about anything we want in the off-topic thread outside of Crusader country. That's what I am doing and will continue to do. The fact that very few people choose to respond to my posts so that a debate or discussion can ensue is not my fault. It was quite obvious that I would get the kind of response I did from Oral lovers. Duh! Hard to debate gullibility. But for the other issues I have brought up, if someone would care to discuss them, I would be more than happy to continue with the discussion. Many people read but choose not to post a response in most cases. I don't just post them so that they will remain without comment. I want some discussion. If you don't allow discussions, diatribes, or whatever and if you don't like what I write then ban me from this forum and I'll have no other choice now will I but to be gone? ORU did it. They didn't like the truth. They couldn't stomach a civil discussion. Why do I post, go back and brew, and post another response? It's called re-thinking about an issue and saying what's on my mind after re-thinking about it. It pissed me off that the only apparent person that has a problem with my posts is you (and for obvious reasons feminists, ORU gullible, contemporary Christians, etc.). You don't like controversial subjects? Well I do declare. Do what you have to do if you don't like it. You have the power. Exercise it!
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Post by valpo04 on Mar 16, 2006 16:36:11 GMT -5
I responded in the ORU thread because at that time, you brought up some points asking if they were true. The discussion from there went out of control. You posted things that had no fact behind them, just someone elses diatribe and attacked ORU with it. That wasn't right.
You use this forum to try to garner a certain response from people you know will bite. When no one would argue your Islamic or other religious posts you quickly jumped into "Anti-ORU" mode. Am I wrong? Am I assuming something about you thats not true? How does that feel? You seem to forget that we are all on here for the same reason, Valpo sports. Quit trying to divide us by posting things that you think will get under someone's skin.
You don't discuss, you get defensive and refuse to see the other side of things. It happens with every argument you are in. It is very difficult to discuss something with someone who does that. Which is probably why no one responds to your bait.
Why would I ban you? A better question, what would you do with all the free time you would have? As much as I don't like your stance or attacking manner, you are very passionate about it. Thats admirable and not against any rules.
So I'm not the only one who has a problem with them. There are better and more important things to get pissed off about, then again if I spent every waking hour on here, I would probably be pissed too.
I will ask you one last time to tone it down a bit, be more inviting to a discussion and open to others opinions. If you don't want to do those things, that's your choice and as long as you aren't breaking any rules or hijacking other threads there is nothing more I can do. I just ask for some cooperation.
Please think about these points so you only have to respond one time. I hate coming back a day later to see that you have changed your stance.
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Post by rick on Mar 16, 2006 16:48:37 GMT -5
I bring up what I bring up because I have strong views about the issue. Yes they are controversial. But I am who I am. What you have seen here is me. If you can't accept me with all of my warts then you need to act. I can't be other than who I am. I will always be controversial when an important issue needs to be discussed in an off-topic forum. And you shouldn't expect when you write on the front page next to off-topic "Talk about anything", that only Valpo sports will be brought up. I will continue to speak out and provide articles and other evidence (which you think have no facts behind them-WRONG!) on those issues. Hopefully some will choose not only to read them, but also to respond to them. And you may think these issues are not important or that "there are better and more important things to get pissed off about," but that's your own personal opinion, with which I disagree.
If you don't like to have to monitor an off-topic board which may include reading whatever is posted there, then perhaps you should quit doing it or find someone else to do it. Did you think it would be easy? And you could just trust me that I will not post pornographic stuff or other bad stuff. Expect that I will post controversial articles from scholars, pundits, politicians, writers, novelists, theologians, etc. And they in some cases will be long. So why not just accept that and don't read everything I post unless you hear from someone that something inappropriate is posted and then you can look into it. By inappropriate I don't mean that they just have a strong disagreement with the topic. You know what I mean.
I'm going to do what I think is the right thing. But I'm not (cannot) changing who I am. If I'm too much for this forum and its members, I have no problem with being banned if that is what you want. Otherwise, it's business as usual for me.
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