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Post by rick on Jan 30, 2006 1:24:40 GMT -5
the only argument that one can make for having a gun is saying one must protect himself against the other guy with the gun. I am saying, if all guns were eliminated, neither guy would have a need for a gun and they could resort to throwing bricks at each other (or something?), which is a lot less deadly. Guns are just about the only weapon that reasonably ensures instant death and I think it is silly to put such a dangerous device into the hands of such an unstable organism (humans). Your views are in fairyland. You missed my point. Criminals will find a way to get guns, legal or not. Thus necessitating the majority of law-abiding citizens having protection. To assume all guns would be eliminated is naive at best.
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Post by crusaderguy08 on Jan 30, 2006 1:29:45 GMT -5
Read my last post-- i have made it clear that my opinion is very idealogical and not at all a possibility at this time in our society. This is me just wishing things were different because I hate seeing people lose their life at the hands of one with a gun (law abiding or otherwise).
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Post by valpo04 on Jan 30, 2006 1:37:36 GMT -5
Read my last post-- i have made it clear that my opinion is very idealogical and not at all a possibility at this time in our society. This is me just wishing things were different because I hate seeing people lose their life at the hands of one with a gun (law abiding or otherwise). I completely understand that. I think we all wish that could be the case.
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Post by rick on Jan 30, 2006 1:38:48 GMT -5
Read my last post-- i have made it clear that my opinion is very idealogical and not at all a possibility at this time in our society. This is me just wishing things were different because I hate seeing people lose their life at the hands of one with a gun (law abiding or otherwise). I agree with you. As a famous criminal once said: "Can't we all just get along?" Ah, that it could ever be possible on this earth. Ain't going to happen.
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Post by stlvufan on Jan 30, 2006 2:15:18 GMT -5
I've got to go see that movie. I don't usually like to watch Army movies especially after that stupid movie with Marlon Brando which was so unrealistic it's inane. Hollywood doesn't have a clue what war is like. You mean "Apocalypse Now"? I don't think it was intended to be all that realistic, at least not in the literal sense. It was intended to be an allegory supporting Coppola's position on the Vietnam War. I think it was intended to be realistic in that context, but it wasn't meant to suggest that anything like those events actually happened. Actually, it was based on Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness" whose setting I think was somewhere in Africa. In Full Metal Jacket, Lee Ermey (a real life Boot Camp instructor) played a Boot Camp instructor in the first half, and there was a scene where the men were led through a chant very similar to the one you mentioned (not absolutely word for word, but close). My favorite character was Private Joker, who ended up as a Stars and Stripes journalist in the Vietnam theater. He found himself in the field with a combat unit when a General showed up and saw him with "Born to Kill" on his shirt and the peace symbol on his helmet, which he explained as his attempt to express the duality of man.
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Post by rick on Jan 30, 2006 8:29:00 GMT -5
Yeah, that's the fictional movie to which I referred. I'm too shallow to understand all that other stuff.
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Post by jmill on Feb 2, 2006 21:20:34 GMT -5
Edit: it is unnecessary for civilians to have guns. (is this better?) Not according to the Constitution of the United States. Amen. The Constitution protects those who handle guns responsibly. It punishes those who handle guns recklessly. There's no need to punish the repsonsible because of the actions of the irresponsible.
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