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Post by vu72 on Mar 8, 2010 9:58:54 GMT -5
An All American coming? No. That juco banger coming? Nope. Just found out last night, from a reliable source, that the plan is to increase Valpo's enrollment to 6000! That includes some growth in the law school and graduate school but mainly, about 1500, in undergrads. This is part of why Valpo just hired a Vice President for Enrollment, to figure out how to get this growth done. I doubt it will be the result of lower admission standards so it will have to come from much increase publicity (couldn't a top 25 basketball program help??) Maybe a larger arena won't be necessary. Based on the current student turnout for a typical game, maybe the added 1500 will call for maybe some added folding chairs from time to time!  |
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Post by agibson on Mar 8, 2010 14:04:18 GMT -5
Interesting. Will they finally do away, or at least continue to loosen, the mandatory on-campus business?
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Post by vu72 on Mar 8, 2010 14:24:43 GMT -5
Interesting. Will they finally do away, or at least continue to loosen, the mandatory on-campus business? I was wondering how they will do it also. As I understand it, currently, students must live on campus until they achieve senior status. Part of this is to keep the dorms full of course. I suspect it will be some combination of new apartments (already well underway), a new dorm and maybe lowering the rule to allow students off campus once they have achieved junior status. Anybody's guess. |
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Post by vuweathernerd on Mar 8, 2010 14:51:54 GMT -5
Interesting. Will they finally do away, or at least continue to loosen, the mandatory on-campus business? I was wondering how they will do it also. As I understand it, currently, students must live on campus until they achieve senior status. Part of this is to keep the dorms full of course. I suspect it will be some combination of new apartments (already well underway), a new dorm and maybe lowering the rule to allow students off campus once they have achieved junior status. Anybody's guess. more completed apartments would go a long way towards this, as any students wishing to live in uptown east only need 56 credits (junior standing) versus the 88 credits needed to obtain senior status and be eligible to live completely off campus. however, it could be an attempt to draw more local students from nwi who plan to live at home. (though i'm not sure i like this theory.) |
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Post by crusaderjoe on Mar 8, 2010 15:08:15 GMT -5
Boosting Graduate enrollment is easy--simply place more degrees offered through online programs. That way anyone anywhere in the world can apply and enroll. I never thought I would go back to school but I enrolled in a distance MS program last year. I will complete all coursework online and will never have to set foot on campus, unless I want to attend graduation ceremonies. Even though I am an online student and located over 1,000 miles away, I am still counted as a graduate student and get all of the perks like discounted basketball tickets, access to their online libraries, etc. as if really being on campus.
Before I applied I checked out Valpo to see if they offered the degree I was pursuing and it looked like the University didn't have too much to offer the distance student in general. That is too bad.
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Post by valpofan56 on Mar 8, 2010 18:25:13 GMT -5
Boosting Graduate enrollment is easy--simply place more degrees offered through online programs. That way anyone anywhere in the world can apply and enroll. I never thought I would go back to school but I enrolled in a distance MS program last year. I will complete all coursework online and will never have to set foot on campus, unless I want to attend graduation ceremonies. Even though I am an online student and located over 1,000 miles away, I am still counted as a graduate student and get all of the perks like discounted basketball tickets, access to their online libraries, etc. as if really being on campus. Before I applied I checked out Valpo to see if they offered the degree I was pursuing and it looked like the University didn't have too much to offer the distance student in general. That is too bad. Pretty sure this would completely defeat the point of WHY Valpo is wishing to increase their enrollment. |
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Post by mj on Mar 8, 2010 20:08:55 GMT -5
I love Valpo but honestly the admission standards are way to low right now. There are kids who go to Valpo who use NUMBERS in place of WORDS in their papers. (4 instead of for, 2 instead of to or too, B4 instead of before). These are from CORE papers from just a year or so ago.
Valpo has some great programs with some of the smartest kids I've ever met. However, they also have a bunch of programs with kids who have no business of being in college. The last time I checked, 25% of incoming freshmen had below a 3.0 in high school. That's not the mark of a great academic university.
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Post by valpofan56 on Mar 9, 2010 0:25:58 GMT -5
I love Valpo but honestly the admission standards are way to low right now. There are kids who go to Valpo who use NUMBERS in place of WORDS in their papers. (4 instead of for, 2 instead of to or too, B4 instead of before). These are from CORE papers from just a year or so ago. Valpo has some great programs with some of the smartest kids I've ever met. However, they also have a bunch of programs with kids who have no business of being in college. The last time I checked, 25% of incoming freshmen had below a 3.0 in high school. That's not the mark of a great academic university. I agree completely. I remember reading some students' CORE papers when I was a freshman and I couldn't believe the grade level at which some of them were written. I honestly had better sentence structure and flow to my papers when I was a fifth grader. Oh well . . . |
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Post by agibson on Mar 9, 2010 7:34:20 GMT -5
Boosting Graduate enrollment is easy--simply place more degrees offered through online programs. That way anyone anywhere in the world can apply and enroll. I never thought I would go back to school but I enrolled in a distance MS program last year. I will complete all coursework online and will never have to set foot on campus, unless I want to attend graduation ceremonies. Even though I am an online student and located over 1,000 miles away, I am still counted as a graduate student and get all of the perks like discounted basketball tickets, access to their online libraries, etc. as if really being on campus. Before I applied I checked out Valpo to see if they offered the degree I was pursuing and it looked like the University didn't have too much to offer the distance student in general. That is too bad. Pretty sure this would completely defeat the point of WHY Valpo is wishing to increase their enrollment. How's that? |
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Post by rick on Mar 9, 2010 9:11:03 GMT -5
I agree completely. I remember reading some students' CORE papers when I was a freshman and I couldn't believe the grade level at which some of them were written. I honestly had better sentence structure and flow to my papers when I was a fifth grader. Oh well . . . What skool you went anyhow? |
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Post by vu72 on Mar 9, 2010 16:12:12 GMT -5
Clearly some of the growth will come from on line students. President Heckler has said this several times.
More of the growth must come from added scholarship money or simply discounting the total package cost. I was at an event on Sunday when Valpo's Minnesota Admissions counselor invited about 12 admitted students who had yet to make their final decision. I was one of about 7 or 8 alums there to help "close the deal". In visiting with these students, most of which were either Christ College material or interested in engineering, the key factor was waiting on the final financial package from different schools. How the money turned out was perhaps the final issue. I know of one student from my church who just visited the campus and was given an offer of additional money while there. All that I know is that the financial packages are being developed in a different manner than in previous years.
As for the quality of students, clearly some of the students are not at the top of their class. Writing skills in general have declined with the onset of text messaging and the lack of proper training at the secondary level. Still, why not give some a chance to turn it around? I was one who "lacked focus" early in my high school years and got my act together late. As a result my overall GPA wasn't anything to write home about bu the trend was solid and, thank God, Valpo gave me a chance.
In general the large part of our incoming freshman are very good students. Here is what our "About Valpo" web-page has to say:
The academic program is rigorous, but Valpo students are well prepared for the classroom challenges. Nearly 60 percent graduated within the top one-fifth of their high school class with approximately six percent ranking first or second in their class.
Sounds reasonable to me!!
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Post by jj on Mar 9, 2010 19:59:14 GMT -5
Butler claims 79% of their students in the top quarter. Once again,Butler has it all over VU.
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Post by vu72 on Mar 10, 2010 12:53:17 GMT -5
Butler claims 79% of their students in the top quarter. Once again,Butler has it all over VU. Read carefully jj. This is apples to oranges. Valpo claims 60% of freshman are in the top twenty percent while Butler claims 79% in the top twenty-five percent. We have no idea how many Valpo kids are in the top twenty-five. |
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Post by jj on Mar 10, 2010 13:16:08 GMT -5
2010 edition of USN&WR lists Butler as having 51%of their incoming freshman in the top tenth and 79% in the top quarter of their classes. Valpo, on the other hand,claims 31% in the top tenth and 61% in the top quarter. Advantage: BUTLER!
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Post by okinawatyphoon on Mar 10, 2010 22:24:47 GMT -5
The plan for increasing the enrollment numbers are true based on the President's publicized Strategic Plan, and I can tell you that the new VP for Enrollment has an excellent track record of increasing enrollment while at the same time increasing selectivity and broadening the geographic profile of incoming students. We are headed for exciting times in VU's future in the next few years.
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