Lutheran Values Nonexistent

[rick]

I find it interesting that there is some embarrassment within the university about the smut-play Vagina Monologues. The university promotes, or at least approves and allows this vile, unchristian play to take place on its campus. Liberal thinking people within the university embrace and champion this play and celebrate it. It is announced on the university website and everyone is invited. How progressive. Aren't we compassionate and forward thinking?

Yet it seems when the truth about what this play is and its content comes out from behind the OZ curtain, many elite liberal, open-minded university folks begin to wonder whether or not this play is in line with the values of a Lutheran university. To be sure, this is a play that one would expect to see on any secular university's campus without a single eyebrow raised. But in a Christian university? Perhaps Valpo U. is a C.U.I.N.O. (Christian university in name only)
Many who have read the play and have seen it have voiced their views. One can hardly disagree with my question:
Do you want your child/student watching the VU-sanctioned Vagina Monologues which embraces homosexuality, masturbation, adult lesbian relationships with teenagers(called good rape), sexual activity outside of marriage, and the chanting of C-U-N-T? Are these Christian values? Are these the values a Lutheran Christian university should be promoting?

Does the university really want to defend this smegma-fest? Does it truly believe this play is a good thing for women and the university? Do the ends justify the means? If so, why not just have a good old fashioned cat house on campus? Free sex to all those poor unattractive young men and women who never get any sex. Charge a hundred dollars a pop and donate the proceeds to a battered women's house here in Valpo. People would come (no pun intended) from all over. Yahoo! Have a good time.

Some pressure has already been brought to bear upon this question from within the university and from some alumni to get this issue away from the public eye. A subtle form of censorship is emerging. What the university does not want to face is a real dialog about this play. They just want it (and those like me who bring it center-stage and call for discussion) to go away.

Why are they embarrassed? They promote and allow it don't they? Perhaps they are embarrassed because they never thought anyone gave enough of a damn to bring this disgusting excuse for "art" to light. After all, no one would dare criticize something offered by the elites at Valpo U. would they?

I think there are many parents out there who want to send their children to a Christian university who if they knew that this kind of filth was being promoted and allowed on the university campus would not allow their kids to attend Valpo. And if I am right about that, don't you think the administration should take a second look at this? Don't you think they should ask whether or not this play is consistent with Lutheran values? Is this the only way to promote programs which condemn violence against women? I think not. Not for a "Christian" university. Ok for a C.U.I.N.O though.

[valporun]

Rick, I have to agree with you about this situation. Sure, it does inform, but it informs in an immorally disgusting and disturbing way. I don't feel this show should be approved by the administration, but yet Dr. Harre and several others who have to review the content of anything happening on campus allow this to happen as willfully as they allow some of the activity on WVUR to happen. I think the administration has lost control over what is right and morally correct for discussion on a campus like Valpo, but since its a "liberal arts" university..even those of us who are liberals still have to deal with this show getting past the censors. Thankfully I'm not longer in Valparaiso so I don't have to consider attending, but if I did, I'd just go somewhere else in protest of this show, but I would still submit letters and opinions of concerns, as we may voice here on this forum to the powers that be asking them to review the context of this show and also review the content of what would be and will be said in the script of this show.
I really hope the administration gets the idea that this show really only gives the feminists on campus a soapbox with which to stand on.

[valpotentate]

[rick]

Dakota tribal wisdom says that when you discover you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount. However, in business we often try other strategies with dead horses, including the following:

1. Buying a stronger whip.
2. Changing riders.
3. Say things like, "This is the way we have always ridden this horse."
4. Appointing a committee to study the horse.
5. Arranging to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses.
6. Increasing the standards to ride dead horses.
7. Appointing a tiger team to revive the dead horse.
8. Creating a training session to increase our riding ability.
9. Comparing the state of dead horses in todays environment.
10. Change the requirements declaring that "This horse is not dead."
11. Hire contractors to ride the dead horse.
12. Harnessing several dead horses together for increased speed.
13. Declaring that "No horse is too dead to beat."
14. Providing additional funding to increase the horse's performance.
15. Do a Cost Analysis study to see if contractors can ride it cheaper.
16. Purchase a product to make dead horses run faster.
17. Declare the horse is "better, faster and cheaper" dead.
18. Form a quality circle to find uses for dead horses.
19. Revisit the performance requirements for horses.
20. Say this horse was procured with cost as an independent variable.
21. Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position.

[rick]

What Lutheran values are demonstrated at the Vagina Monologues?

[stlvufan]

rick said:

Some pressure has already been brought to bear upon this question from within the university and from some alumni to get this issue away from the public eye. A subtle form of censorship is emerging. What the university does not want to face is a real dialog about this play. They just want it (and those like me who bring it center-stage and call for discussion) to go away.

Why are they embarrassed? They promote and allow it don't they? Perhaps they are embarrassed because they never thought anyone gave enough of a damn to bring this disgusting excuse for "art" to light. After all, no one would dare criticize something offered by the elites at Valpo U. would they?

Now, you're talkin' This sounds more like the Rick I've come to know and respect.

As one who is unaware of the turmoil, can you provide some evidence of the above? Would there be hints in the NWI Times, or does this come strictly from your own coversations with VU folks?

[rick]

stlvufan said:

rick said:

Some pressure has already been brought to bear upon this question from within the university and from some alumni to get this issue away from the public eye. A subtle form of censorship is emerging. What the university does not want to face is a real dialog about this play. They just want it (and those like me who bring it center-stage and call for discussion) to go away.

Why are they embarrassed? They promote and allow it don't they? Perhaps they are embarrassed because they never thought anyone gave enough of a damn to bring this disgusting excuse for "art" to light. After all, no one would dare criticize something offered by the elites at Valpo U. would they?

Now, you're talkin' This sounds more like the Rick I've come to know and respect.

As one who is unaware of the turmoil, can you provide some evidence of the above? Would there be hints in the NWI Times, or does this come strictly from your own coversations with VU folks?

I know it to be true but can't reveal the source.

[rick]

What Lutheran values are demonstrated at the Vagina Monologues?