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Post by vu72 on Dec 7, 2009 10:49:32 GMT -5
I would think that Mr. LaBarbera may wish he hadn't made that statement. I'm sure the volleyball, softball, soccer or baseball coaches may think differently. Then again, what does "compete in on a national stage" mean? We haven't won aganst a big conference school in basketball since our win against Washington in the CBI. Volleyball beat Notre Dame, Louisville and others last year. Women's basketball beat Purdue and Florida State. Our soccer teams certainly compete very well against big schools and I think the same could be said for baseball or softball. The football situation will be very interesting. A few years ago we were pounded by North Dakota and, as I recall, Mark said we wouldn't be scheduling those type teams any more, in part, because of the risk of injury. Now we are back to scheduling Western Illinois and Youngstown State? They will kill us. Perhaps those games will put some money in the bank for improved facilities etc. Who knows...
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Post by valpo04 on Dec 7, 2009 11:52:47 GMT -5
By "national stage" I would think ML is referring to being on national TV...
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Post by vusupporter on Dec 7, 2009 12:56:57 GMT -5
By "national stage" I would think ML is referring to being on national TV... Or scores scrolling across the bottom line...
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Post by valpo89 on Dec 7, 2009 13:07:38 GMT -5
I thought there was a typo in the story. I think it was meant to say football is the only sport that VU can NOT compete on a national stage. Just a theory.
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Post by agibson on Dec 7, 2009 14:17:30 GMT -5
Hmmm.. a noble theory. But, wishful thinking, I suspect.
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Post by vu72 on Dec 7, 2009 15:04:19 GMT -5
I thought there was a typo in the story. I think it was meant to say football is the only sport that VU can NOT compete on a national stage. Just a theory. OK 89, so what did the reporter mean when he wrote this: Large because most of VU's student athletes spring from football rosters of more than 100 players on an annual basis. Basketball's No. 1 status won't change, but a significant football upgrade should be possible at the nation's only Lutheran university. Obviously he didn't do any homework because we aren't even the only Lutheran D1 let alone the only Lutheran university.
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Post by agibson on Dec 7, 2009 15:10:26 GMT -5
You're considering the Concordia system collectively as "Concordia University"?
I guess they do at least call themselves a university, I'm not quite sure what they base that on.
I don't know of any Lutheran PhD granting institutions. Off hand, we're the only Lutheran university I know, in the sense that we have multiple colleges. A college of engineering, nursing, business, a school of law, etc. And we grant some master's degrees.
Do other Lutheran schools do much of that? I'm honestly curious. I thought they were mostly (all?) four-year schools with basically just bachelor's degrees, and basically a liberal arts focus.
I actually thought it was a nice way to tag Valpo, "the nation's only Lutheran university". But not, obviously, if it's not true!
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Post by valpo89 on Dec 7, 2009 16:05:24 GMT -5
I thought there was a typo in the story. I think it was meant to say football is the only sport that VU can NOT compete on a national stage. Just a theory. OK 89, so what did the reporter mean when he wrote this: Large because most of VU's student athletes spring from football rosters of more than 100 players on an annual basis. Basketball's No. 1 status won't change, but a significant football upgrade should be possible at the nation's only Lutheran university. Obviously he didn't do any homework because we aren't even the only Lutheran D1 let alone the only Lutheran university. Good question. I was a little confused when I read that myself. After re-reading the first two paragrphs again, I am convinced that there should have been a "not" in there because of the reference to football alumni at the end of the sentence.
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Post by vu72 on Dec 7, 2009 16:06:12 GMT -5
You're considering the Concordia system collectively as "Concordia University"? I guess they do at least call themselves a university, I'm not quite sure what they base that on. I don't know of any Lutheran PhD granting institutions. Off hand, we're the only Lutheran university I know, in the sense that we have multiple colleges. A college of engineering, nursing, business, a school of law, etc. And we grant some master's degrees. Do other Lutheran schools do much of that? I'm honestly curious. I thought they were mostly (all?) four-year schools with basically just bachelor's degrees, and basically a liberal arts focus. I actually thought it was a nice way to tag Valpo, "the nation's only Lutheran university". But not, obviously, if it's not true! While it is true that many of the lutheran colleges are liberal arts schools only, others clearly are universities in the Valpo sense. Take Capital University in Columbus, Ohio as an example. Capital is about the same size as Valpo, has colleges in business, nursing etc and, has a law school. The profile is strikingly similar to Valpo's. Others like Pacific Lutheran Uniersity also are similar. Here is a website listing all the lutheran schools. www.lutherancolleges.org/Without profiling all of them I can't comment further as to specifics. My point was only that the reporter didn't try to differentiate between Valpo as a D1 or anything like that. all he said was that Valpo was the nation's only Lutheran University. Now, if he said that no other Lutheran school had a national reputation like Valpo, then he would have been a lot closer to the truth.
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Post by agibson on Dec 7, 2009 16:17:18 GMT -5
Interesting! Yep, Capital in particular seems to have a lot of similarities. (Though neither Capital nor PLU have a college of engineering.) I stand corrected! (As should John Mutka).
Thanks for the pointers.
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Post by okinawatyphoon on Dec 7, 2009 16:48:16 GMT -5
Isn't Valpo the only D1 Lutheran university (or college) in the United States? And Valpo is the only Lutheran school in the United States that has a College of Engineering.
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Post by vu72 on Dec 7, 2009 17:24:22 GMT -5
Isn't Valpo the only D1 Lutheran university (or college) in the United States? And Valpo is the only Lutheran school in the United States that has a College of Engineering. I'll take your word for it on the engineering school point. Wagner College, in New york, is the other Lutheran college playing D1
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Post by stlvufan on Dec 8, 2009 11:14:51 GMT -5
I thought there was a typo in the story. I think it was meant to say football is the only sport that VU can NOT compete on a national stage. Just a theory. Now that you mention it, that was my first impression as well. That makes the most sense. As I said, very sloppily written.
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