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Post by vuweathernerd on Sept 25, 2010 23:46:41 GMT -5
for us, it was a step in the right direction. 19 points AND only giving up 21? closest game we've had in quite a while.
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Post by jerome1 on Sept 26, 2010 8:46:46 GMT -5
You can be satisfied with an improvement or you can think like Coach Carlson thinks: “We played better and played harder today, but we didn’t finish the game,” head coach Dale Carlson said after the game. “We had the effort we’ve been looking for over four quarters. However, there are no moral victories, just wins and losses.” It will be great when Coach Carlson proves jj wrong about his thinking on Valpo athletics and football in particular.
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Post by jj on Sept 26, 2010 8:49:04 GMT -5
Not this year.
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Post by milanmiracle on Sept 26, 2010 15:03:35 GMT -5
You can be satisfied with an improvement or you can think like Coach Carlson thinks: “We played better and played harder today, but we didn’t finish the game,” head coach Dale Carlson said after the game. “We had the effort we’ve been looking for over four quarters. However, there are no moral victories, just wins and losses.” It will be great when Coach Carlson proves jj wrong about his thinking on Valpo athletics and football in particular. Um, coach, you're 0-3. I think I'd be highlighting the moral victories right now since you have no actual wins. You were outscored 137-14 prior to this game. 21-19 is fantastic in comparison. Remember, the last win was over a year ago. I'll take moral victories...at least for now.
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Post by vuweathernerd on Sept 26, 2010 18:12:38 GMT -5
You can be satisfied with an improvement or you can think like Coach Carlson thinks: “We played better and played harder today, but we didn’t finish the game,” head coach Dale Carlson said after the game. “We had the effort we’ve been looking for over four quarters. However, there are no moral victories, just wins and losses.” It will be great when Coach Carlson proves jj wrong about his thinking on Valpo athletics and football in particular. Um, coach, you're 0-3. I think I'd be highlighting the moral victories right now since you have no actual wins. You were outscored 137-14 prior to this game. 21-19 is fantastic in comparison. Remember, the last win was over a year ago. I'll take moral victories...at least for now. don't you mean 0-4? simply for factual purposes. that said, this was most certainly a moral victory and should be played up as much as possible. we held our own against a much better team, injuries be damned. the team came a long way following a 50-7 drubbing merely a week prior. and for that, they deserve our congratulations. :clap
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Post by valporun on Sept 26, 2010 18:48:57 GMT -5
Do coaches really think that close loses that show promise of potential win, are moral victories? It could be that Coach Carlson doesn't believe in moral victories because he only sees a victory being what the final score is at the end of the game, because you fought to be the dog that won when the clock struck 0:00. I'm not going to try speaking for him, but it seems that he wants more than a moral victory for his players. We've just had to settle for moral victories a lot, in the last 7-8 years.
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Post by stlvufan on Sept 27, 2010 8:40:04 GMT -5
that said, this was most certainly a moral victory and should be played up as much as possible. we held our own against a much better team, injuries be damned. I don't remember broaching this before, but if I did, my apologies. How in the world did the phrase "moral victory" come to be used for this? What the heck does morality have to do with it? Just wondering...
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Post by valpo04 on Sept 27, 2010 8:45:17 GMT -5
that said, this was most certainly a moral victory and should be played up as much as possible. we held our own against a much better team, injuries be damned. I don't remember broaching this before, but if I did, my apologies. How in the world did the phrase "moral victory" come to be used for this? What the heck does morality have to do with it? Just wondering... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_victorySo I guess a "moral victory" means you played well and you played right, even though the other team ultimately beat you.
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Post by vuweathernerd on Sept 27, 2010 16:42:47 GMT -5
that said, this was most certainly a moral victory and should be played up as much as possible. we held our own against a much better team, injuries be damned. I don't remember broaching this before, but if I did, my apologies. How in the world did the phrase "moral victory" come to be used for this? What the heck does morality have to do with it? Just wondering... i was just throwing around the verbiage that everyone else had already used.
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Post by stlvufan on Sept 27, 2010 17:27:13 GMT -5
I don't remember broaching this before, but if I did, my apologies. How in the world did the phrase "moral victory" come to be used for this? What the heck does morality have to do with it? Just wondering... i was just throwing around the verbiage that everyone else had already used. I wasn't aiming my query specifically at you, nerd You just happened to be the exact 1,000,000th person to use the word, and this is the prize I decided to award
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Post by stlvufan on Sept 27, 2010 17:29:15 GMT -5
I don't remember broaching this before, but if I did, my apologies. How in the world did the phrase "moral victory" come to be used for this? What the heck does morality have to do with it? Just wondering... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_victorySo I guess a "moral victory" means you played well and you played right, even though the other team ultimately beat you. Oh, I understand what it is supposed to mean. That's clear from the context. My peeve is with the choice of words for this concept. At the link you posted, here's the only definition that makes any sense to me: For example, a sports team that loses fairly to a cheating team might claim a moral victory in spite of the loss
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