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Post by rlh on Feb 7, 2011 9:54:15 GMT -5
Congratulations....he is really becoming one our go-to guys If YOU had been keeping up RLH, then you would have realized he has always been one of our go-to guys. Glad you are finally beginning to open your eyes to that fact. No doubt many felt he was a good player, just not worthy of being mentioned alongside of Johnson and Wood. And, milanmiracle, you make an excellent point. Johnson and Wood are deemed our stars whether we win or not! Broekhoff may only gain that status if we are winning. Great thought! Thank you for that. Not sure why you're trying to stir up an argument, but if you will look back you'll find that I have been a Rowdy supporter from the first game he played for us last year. I think he has a chance to be a super star, so get off you soapbox, or whatever you're on and pick on someone else. You're in the wrong arena and at the wrong time. |
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Post by jerome1 on Feb 7, 2011 10:50:12 GMT -5
I think that most of the posters believe Ryan Broekhoff should shoot more during the early portions of the games instead of just saving it for the end of games. If he looked for his shot more instead of passing up opportunities to score he would be right up there with Wood and Johnson on opponents scouting reports and scoring even more. Watch Ryan during a game. Many times he just looks to pass and never even looks at the basket. On the other hand I see Wood, Johnson, Little, Kenney, Rogers, etc. almost always looking for a shot when they get the ball. I'm not sure who doesn't look to shoot more during the early parts of games, Broekhoff or Buggs. As most of us know Buggs should only be looking at making lay ups and that he can't seem to hit jump shots at all.
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Post by bbtds on Feb 7, 2011 11:12:07 GMT -5
I think that most of the posters believe Ryan Broekhoff should shoot more during the early portions of the games instead of just saving it for the end of games. If he looked for his shot more instead of passing up opportunities to score he would be right up there with Wood and Johnson on opponents scouting reports and scoring even more. Watch Ryan during a game. Many times he just looks to pass and never even looks at the basket. On the other hand I see Wood, Johnson, Little, Kenney, Rogers, etc. almost always looking for a shot when they get the ball. I'm not sure who doesn't look to shoot more during the early parts of games, Broekhoff or Buggs. As most of us know Buggs should only be looking at making lay ups and that he can't seem to hit jump shots at all. As you know I agree 100%. |
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Post by sliman on Feb 7, 2011 14:19:49 GMT -5
In our eagerness to increase Rowdy's scoring output, let's not forget that one of the reasons he's an excellent shooter is that he doesn't take many bad shots. He appears to recognize that his best chance of scoring is to get his feet squared to the basket, get good balance, elevate and shoot. If we can provide more ways for that to happen, his shots will come -- and he'll make them.
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Post by agibson on Feb 7, 2011 14:25:38 GMT -5
Rowdy was the only HL player to post back-to-back Double-Doubles over the weekend with 15/11 against CSU and 11/14 against YSU. POTW? Brandon got 31 last night, but his 6 on Thursday didn't help... Anthony Hill put up some impressive numbers in their only game... 29 points and 15 boards for UWM in their win over GB. Krebs had a pair of impressive scoring games 20 and 25 but not a lot to show for it in the "W" column. Norris Cole did have a 25/11 game against us, and 15 against Butler.... Montgomery had 26 against us and 18 against Butler.... Chase Simon but up 20 and 28 in their two games ... Be interesting to see how the voting goes! And Hill gets the nod. In fact, the "honorable mention" for Valpo was Wood. Of course, putting up the highest single game total in league play is fairly remarkable. |
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Post by stlvufan on Feb 7, 2011 14:26:53 GMT -5
In our eagerness to increase Rowdy's scoring output, let's not forget that one of the reasons he's an excellent shooter is that he doesn't take many bad shots. He appears to recognize that his best chance of scoring is to get his feet squared to the basket, get good balance, elevate and shoot. If we can provide more ways for that to happen, his shots will come -- and he'll make them. I distinctly recall someone (Todd?) saying that Ryan is not someone who is good at creating his own shot. That figures into it too. |
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Post by bbtds on Feb 7, 2011 16:43:22 GMT -5
In our eagerness to increase Rowdy's scoring output, let's not forget that one of the reasons he's an excellent shooter is that he doesn't take many bad shots. He appears to recognize that his best chance of scoring is to get his feet squared to the basket, get good balance, elevate and shoot. If we can provide more ways for that to happen, his shots will come -- and he'll make them. I distinctly recall someone (Todd?) saying that Ryan is not someone who is good at creating his own shot. That figures into it too. Then why aren't the Crusaders working more to get Broekhoff open for good shots? Wouldn't that seem to make sense with such an excellent scorer on the team? Ryan is a great prolific shooter and Valpo should be using him to the best of his ability. |
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Post by stlvufan on Feb 7, 2011 16:50:42 GMT -5
I distinctly recall someone (Todd?) saying that Ryan is not someone who is good at creating his own shot. That figures into it too. Then why aren't the Crusaders working more to get Broekhoff open for good shots? Wouldn't that seem to make sense with such an excellent scorer on the team? Ryan is a great prolific shooter and Valpo should be using him to the best of his ability. Maybe they are and the other team is doing a decent job most of the time of closing it off. Maybe it's something the other team has to be perfect at or they'll get burned  |
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Post by bbtds on Feb 7, 2011 16:55:58 GMT -5
Then why aren't the Crusaders working more to get Broekhoff open for good shots? Wouldn't that seem to make sense with such an excellent scorer on the team? Ryan is a great prolific shooter and Valpo should be using him to the best of his ability. Maybe they are and the other team is doing a decent job most of the time of closing it off. Maybe it's something the other team has to be perfect at or they'll get burned Do you really believe that is what is happening? Or are you just searching for answers when the real answer is that Valpo is not doing enough to get a great scorer like Broekhoff open? Why was Ryan able to hit two very contested 3-point shots at the end of the Green Bay game? If he is so bad at creating his own shot why was he able to accomplish that feat? I think most of us underestimate Ryan's ability as I think Ryan underestimates his own ability. |
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Post by agibson on Feb 7, 2011 16:56:46 GMT -5
The post-game interview with Brad Stevens was pretty interesting on this point. They were keying on Rowdy, and Stevens was pretty upset at the times Rowdy got left open. He seemed to hold it out as their biggest failure in execution.
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Post by chris on Feb 7, 2011 17:13:16 GMT -5
I believe all teams have him on their scouting reports for being a great shooter and knowing has the greenlight if he is open and thats been a great part of his game since day one of his college career. So of course he is not overlooked by any opponents. Also, he is obviously very disciplined and is only interested in shooting when he can get set. I can't think of time off the top of my head when I was watching a game and saw him take a shot that was ill advised from the 3 point land. Hopefully his discipline is something Jay Harris will learn because when he contributes offensively, it seems Valpo really has a much easier time on the offensive end when that defense has to spread out more. Rowdy is a very smart player and contributes in everyway. Sure am glad he is only a sophmore. Obviously, his good looks at the basket come when we are scoring inside more, which will be interesting because that could be a problem next year with the lose of Johnson.
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Post by humbleopinion on Feb 7, 2011 17:16:33 GMT -5
He also seems more good looks when the other team has gotten tired, i.e. in the second half.
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Post by rlh on Feb 7, 2011 18:14:23 GMT -5
just checked it....Rowdy is now 13th in the nation with a .495 3-point percentage....he's moving up the ladder and we need him to continue
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Post by bbtds on Feb 7, 2011 18:14:26 GMT -5
He also seems more good looks when the other team has gotten tired, i.e. in the second half. Why wouldn't Valpo's players be more tired too? Are you saying defense gets more tired in the 2nd half while the offense doesn't therefore there is always more scoring in the 2nd half? I don't really believe that and I don't really believe that you believe it. |
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Post by stlvufan on Feb 7, 2011 18:36:12 GMT -5
Maybe they are and the other team is doing a decent job most of the time of closing it off. Maybe it's something the other team has to be perfect at or they'll get burned Do you really believe that is what is happening? Or are you just searching for answers when the real answer is that Valpo is not doing enough to get a great scorer like Broekhoff open? Why was Ryan able to hit two very contested 3-point shots at the end of the Green Bay game? If he is so bad at creating his own shot why was he able to accomplish that feat? I think most of us underestimate Ryan's ability as I think Ryan underestimates his own ability. I have no position whatsoever. I'm just pointing out the possibilities. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you're not necessarily being complete in your analysis. |
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