Tie Breaks

[ncgopher]

What are the tie breaks for hosting the conference semi-finals? Between Cleveland St., Valpo. Butler and Miwaukee it looks like there will be some ties.

Sorry if I'm repeating an earlier thread...

[wh]

Feb 20, 2011 8:03:23 GMT -5 ncgopher said:

What are the tie breaks for hosting the conference semi-finals? Between Cleveland St., Valpo. Butler and Miwaukee it looks like there will be some ties.

Sorry if I'm repeating an earlier thread...

A Mark Lazerus article from Friday provides a good overview:

Valpo still in driver's seat

posttrib.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/3878121-419/valpo-still-in-drivers-seat.html

[kl31ny]

Found a link to this at the bottom of the article. Also very good.

blogs.post-trib.com/lazerus/2011/02/horizon-league-seeding-scenari-1.html

All scenarios are for VU winning out, which they would need to do to win anyway, but naturally, they all go up in smoke if VU trips on someone this week barring an insane amount of help.

[crusaderdad]

bit.ly/gyIjGE

With that in mind, the following scenarios are listed to help fans and media determine exactly what could happen as the result of games on Friday and Saturday.

Scenarios:
Milwaukee
-- Clinches No. 1 seed with win
-- Clinches No. 1 seed with loss AND Butler loss AND Cleveland State loss (Valpo win/loss does not factor)
-- Clinches No. 2 seed with loss AND Cleveland State loss AND Butler win
-- Clinches No. 2 seed with loss AND Butler loss AND Cleveland State win

Butler
-- Clinches no worse than No. 2 seed with win
-- Clinches No. 1 seed with win AND Milwaukee loss (wins tiebreaker over Cleveland State)
-- Clinches No. 2 seed with loss AND Valparaiso win AND Cleveland State loss (3-1 record against the two)

Cleveland State
-- Clinches no worse than No. 3 seed with win
-- Clinches No. 1 seed with win AND Butler loss AND Milwaukee loss
-- Clinches No. 2 seed with win AND Butler win AND Milwaukee loss
-- Clinches No. 2 seed with win AND Butler loss AND Milwaukee win

Valparaiso
-- Has Clinched no worse than No. 4 seed (swept Wright State)
-- Clinches No. 2 seed with win AND Cleveland State loss AND Butler loss AND Milwaukee loss (four-way tie)
-- Clinches No. 3 seed with win AND Cleveland State loss AND Butler loss (2-2 combined record)
-- Clinches No. 3 seed with win AND Cleveland State loss AND Butler win (wins tiebreaker over CSU with Butler win)
-- Clinches No. 3 seed with win AND Cleveland State loss AND Milwaukee loss (wins tiebreaker over CSU with Butler win)
-- Clinches No. 3 seed with win AND Cleveland State win AND Butler loss (wins tiebreaker over Butler with UWM win)

Wright State
-- Clinches No. 5 seed with win
-- Clinches No. 6 seed with loss

Detroit
-- Clinches No. 5 seed with win (would sweep Wright State)
-- Clinches No. 6 seed with loss AND Green Bay loss

Green Bay
-- Clinches No. 6 seed with win AND Detroit loss (wins tiebreaker with wins over Milwaukee, Valpo)

Loyola
-- Clinches No. 7 seed with win AND Green Bay loss AND Valparaiso loss (must have Butler finish ahead of Valparaiso)

Youngstown State
-- Clinches No. 9 seed with win AND/OR UIC loss

UIC
-- Clinches No. 9 seed with win AND Youngstown State loss

[milanmiracle]

Feb 25, 2011 14:19:00 GMT -5 crusaderdad said:

bit.ly/gyIjGE

With that in mind, the following scenarios are listed to help fans and media determine exactly what could happen as the result of games on Friday and Saturday.

Scenarios:
Milwaukee
-- Clinches No. 1 seed with win
-- Clinches No. 1 seed with loss AND Butler loss AND Cleveland State loss (Valpo win/loss does not factor)
-- Clinches No. 2 seed with loss AND Cleveland State loss AND Butler win
-- Clinches No. 2 seed with loss AND Butler loss AND Cleveland State win

Butler
-- Clinches no worse than No. 2 seed with win
-- Clinches No. 1 seed with win AND Milwaukee loss (wins tiebreaker over Cleveland State)
-- Clinches No. 2 seed with loss AND Valparaiso win AND Cleveland State loss (3-1 record against the two)

Cleveland State
-- Clinches no worse than No. 3 seed with win
-- Clinches No. 1 seed with win AND Butler loss AND Milwaukee loss
-- Clinches No. 2 seed with win AND Butler win AND Milwaukee loss
-- Clinches No. 2 seed with win AND Butler loss AND Milwaukee win

Valparaiso
-- Has Clinched no worse than No. 4 seed (swept Wright State)
-- Clinches No. 2 seed with win AND Cleveland State loss AND Butler loss AND Milwaukee loss (four-way tie)
-- Clinches No. 3 seed with win AND Cleveland State loss AND Butler loss (2-2 combined record)
-- Clinches No. 3 seed with win AND Cleveland State loss AND Butler win (wins tiebreaker over CSU with Butler win)
-- Clinches No. 3 seed with win AND Cleveland State loss AND Milwaukee loss (wins tiebreaker over CSU with Butler win)
-- Clinches No. 3 seed with win AND Cleveland State win AND Butler loss (wins tiebreaker over Butler with UWM win)

Wright State
-- Clinches No. 5 seed with win
-- Clinches No. 6 seed with loss

Detroit
-- Clinches No. 5 seed with win (would sweep Wright State)
-- Clinches No. 6 seed with loss AND Green Bay loss

Green Bay
-- Clinches No. 6 seed with win AND Detroit loss (wins tiebreaker with wins over Milwaukee, Valpo)

Loyola
-- Clinches No. 7 seed with win AND Green Bay loss AND Valparaiso loss (must have Butler finish ahead of Valparaiso)

Youngstown State
-- Clinches No. 9 seed with win AND/OR UIC loss

UIC
-- Clinches No. 9 seed with win AND Youngstown State loss

Thanks! Very helpful!

[jbowker]

so the only people upset about this are the ticket managers! well, except those at Green Bay, Loyola, Youngstown and UIC... with the Detroit win last night, none of those 4 can host a game on Tuesday...

[jbowker]

so the only people upset about this are the ticket managers! well, except those at Green Bay, Loyola, Youngstown and UIC... with the Detroit win last night, none of those 4 can host a game on Tuesday...

Game Times today (Central Time)

Milwaukee - Youngstown Noon
Green Bay - Cleveland State 1pm
Loyola - Butler - 1pm

so we'll know at tip off tonight what we need to do...Let's hope tonight's game matters!