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Post by stlvufan on Feb 14, 2006 22:23:27 GMT -5
As to your continued claim that you don't mean anything offensive by what you're doing DOESN'T MEAN WHAT YOU'RE DOING ISN'T OFFENSIVE. If an entire group of people is offended by a certain reference to past abhorant treatment, common decency (if nothing else) dictates that we stay as far away from those references as possible. It DOES mean that the person has a right not to be FALSELY ACCUSED. He instead has the right to be approached in a friendly way with explanation and request for understanding, none of which you have afforded in this thread.
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Post by wh on Feb 14, 2006 22:34:45 GMT -5
"I can tell you aren't that bright."
Sounds strangely like a quote from A Few Good Men, "You're a lousy f###### softball player, Jack." I'll take that to mean you're reassessing your position.
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Post by stlvufan on Feb 14, 2006 22:50:10 GMT -5
"I can tell you aren't that bright." Sounds strangely like a quote from A Few Good Men, "You're a lousy f###### softball player, Jack." I'll take that to mean you're reassessing your position. I'm not sure why I'm wading into a brawl that has escalated to the point where each of you is talking past each other, but the truth is, I stand with Rick on this one. His style of retort is not my cup of tea, but he is the injured party here, and I fully understand where he's coming from. I don't think the quote fits at all.
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Post by vucrusader4life on Feb 14, 2006 23:01:49 GMT -5
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Post by stlvufan on Feb 14, 2006 23:20:34 GMT -5
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Post by eaglebackr on Feb 15, 2006 0:29:54 GMT -5
Eaglebackr accused someone of posting a picture of monkey with one of the coach's face superimposed. As far as I remember, it was a figment of EB's imagination....What is offensive to me is the instantaneous, immediate, presumption of evil intentions any time someone inadvertantly uses an offensive term. Clarification: On Saturday, 2/11, CrusaderBoy08 posted a picture of a monkey in a tree with Ron Hunter's face "photoshoped" onto the monkey's head. After I suggested to him in a PM and in a forum post that the picture might prove combustible in the hands of some enterprising reporter from Chicago or Indianapolis, he promptly apologized and removed the picture from the forum. His original post of the picture was neither "instantaneous, immediate nor inadvertent." It was, in fact, calculated and targeted. This was no excited utterance - he apparently went to some effort creating that image. Hence, my outrage: "a picture speaks a thousand words", you might say.. P.S. To "wh" and the others who have PM'd me with their support: thanks for excusing my usual obnoxious banter and recognizing that for once, I'm not just pulling your leg. It is appreciated...
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Post by stlvufan on Feb 15, 2006 2:13:55 GMT -5
You mean CrusaderGuy08.
If he corroborates your story, then I'll believe you.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
You must know however, that most of us never even saw the picture, and therefore did not have the proper context in which to assess the accusations. And your reputation is pretty low with me.
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Post by rick on Feb 15, 2006 8:28:06 GMT -5
As to your continued claim that you don't mean anything offensive by what you're doing DOESN'T MEAN WHAT YOU'RE DOING ISN'T OFFENSIVE. If an entire group of people is offended by a certain reference to past abhorant treatment, common decency (if nothing else) dictates that we stay as far away from those references as possible. It DOES mean that the person has a right not to be FALSELY ACCUSED. He instead has the right to be approached in a friendly way with explanation and request for understanding, none of which you have afforded in this thread. "Perhaps the explanation for the tendency to suspect rather than to give the benefit of the doubt, the tendency lean to the negative, rather than to seek the positive, is because it is easy. Suspicion, accusation and blame take little effort. Careful listening, clear thinking and a pure heart require real work. Maybe that's why, unfortunately, we see so little of these things. " Star Parker
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Post by rick on Feb 15, 2006 9:38:13 GMT -5
VC(very classless)Boy wrote in support of a false accusation made against me by wh:
"...the truly guilty party often lashes out in fevor at his antagonist in an attempt to reverse the exposure that has been brought upon himself by actions that he now regrets." -Ben Franklin
Now what you have thoughtlessly and recklessly but not surprisingly done here is join in on the bandwagon from the guilty white liberal **who has made false accusations against me which I have proved to be false. I don't regret my actions because they were not offensive or intended to be offensive.
Are you a Christian? If you recall, making false charges against one's neighbor is a serious offense. You have done that and so has WH. I don't know how you are going to reconcile this with your faith but I hope you eventually do. And I also hope that you discontinue to be so reckless in mindlessly jumping on a bandwagon when you don't have any of the facts. This is a serious offense. Like me, hate me, disagree with me, call me a moron if you must, but don't falsely accuse me of something I am not. I'm sure Ben Franklin was not referring to my situation. Anyone with half a brain and who can read would know that. That's probably expecting way too much of you to understand context or to be able to think critically.
But if you ARE a Christian, this Christian has told you that you have made a false accusation without a shred of evidence. I hope you have the humility to admit you are wrong and to seek forgiveness from me as well as to take care of this business with your maker. I am trying, as hard as it is right now, to pray for you and WH and your buddy who started all of this BS.
**A "guilty white liberal" is someone who feels that he owes black people for transgressions that other people made. A guilty white liberal is someone who feels guilty for being white, someone who feels responsible for the slavery of past generations. Someone who feels responsible for actions not committed by him.
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