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Post by valpospartan on Nov 14, 2010 23:52:34 GMT -5
Changes this year:
1. Mascot - Horrible!
1A - Mascot's name suggestions - lame!
2. Moving Culver's upstairs - dumb.
3. New logo - See #1.
4. Changing student section name - See #2
5. Not wanting to Use the term VU - ridiculous
6. Charge season ticket holders to park, than make them drive through a maze to get to the lot (passing a closer entrance in the process) - silly.
7. Playing loud music during player introductions - rude to Mr. Bowker.
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Post by vuweathernerd on Nov 15, 2010 17:44:14 GMT -5
The VUCRU is no more, apparently. I guess it's now the Valparaizone. IMC has been trying to get away from using VU and only referring to us as Valpo or Valparaiso University. How about Valpozone? The "ozone" part would touch on the Meteorology Dept. that's why my vote is for thunder  |
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Post by fwalum on Nov 15, 2010 20:12:58 GMT -5
I think it would be a great idea for the members of this community to share their thoughts concerning the new mascot and other branding initiatives over on the facebook site. Let your opinions be heard, good or bad. It appears that most of the responders are students so a little more input from alumni would be a good thing. Facebook, name the mascot and other branding opinions |
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Post by rink on Nov 15, 2010 23:46:53 GMT -5
This debacle is so effing embarassing. Is it too much to ask for your alma mater to just not take any major steps backwards like this? They had to mess with something that was fine -- even good -- and take a giant leap backwards, it's infuriating. I'm now an alumnus of University with a homemade mascot and potential names that sound like Care Bears. Did they decide to let a consortium of kindergarten teachers run the program down there? I actually don't even care about the name, the mascot itself is just so damn awful it doesn't matter after that. The unoriginal pollyanna names are just the light aftershocks following the massive destructive earthquake that is the most shameful joke of a mascot any serious university has ever tried to pass off.
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Post by wh on Nov 16, 2010 1:22:00 GMT -5
Irrational escalation (sometimes referred to as irrational escalation of commitment or commitment bias):
A term frequently used in psychology, philosophy, economics, and game theory to refer to a situation in which people can make irrational decisions to justify actions already taken.
Translated: The same people that create a dehumanized, bland, liberal agenda-driven character that no one likes think they can change perceptions by initiating a silly "name this unpopular character" contest. Irrational escalation at its finest!
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Post by rlh on Nov 16, 2010 10:31:42 GMT -5
As suggested, you need to inform the university of your feelings. Venting them here, while interesting, won't change a thing.
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Post by okinawatyphoon on Nov 16, 2010 21:23:24 GMT -5
I honestly like a lot of the changes and I think a lot of students do too. The sticking point seems to be with the new mascot (the actual physical mascot, not the drawing or the logo) and the names.
And why not VU? I guess they're trying to make us more distinctive, which I can't argue with. Will we ever be THE VU? Probably not. Vanderbilt or Villanova will probably be the more popular VUs, so Valpo is trying to separate itself from all the VUs out there.
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Post by bbtds on Nov 16, 2010 22:29:27 GMT -5
I honestly like a lot of the changes and I think a lot of students do too. The sticking point seems to be with the new mascot (the actual physical mascot, not the drawing or the logo) and the names. And why not VU? I guess they're trying to make us more distinctive, which I can't argue with. Will we ever be THE VU? Probably not. Vanderbilt or Villanova will probably be the more popular VUs, so Valpo is trying to separate itself from all the VUs out there. Even in Indiana VU is more attached to Vincennes University. At least in the Indy area. |
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Post by vuweathernerd on Nov 16, 2010 23:33:51 GMT -5
I honestly like a lot of the changes and I think a lot of students do too. The sticking point seems to be with the new mascot (the actual physical mascot, not the drawing or the logo) and the names. And why not VU? I guess they're trying to make us more distinctive, which I can't argue with. Will we ever be THE VU? Probably not. Vanderbilt or Villanova will probably be the more popular VUs, so Valpo is trying to separate itself from all the VUs out there. Even in Indiana VU is more attached to Vincennes University. At least in the Indy area. even here in town, you have to specify vu. at least i always have. the high school goes by vhs, so it's only logical to stay vu. |
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Post by jerome1 on Nov 17, 2010 0:06:44 GMT -5
Even in Indiana VU is more attached to Vincennes University. At least in the Indy area. even here in town, you have to specify vu. at least i always have. the high school goes by vhs, so it's only logical to stay vu. When I lived in Merrillville and worked in Valparaiso about 15 years ago it was Valpo High and Valpo U or VU. |
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Post by mj on Nov 17, 2010 0:10:19 GMT -5
It always seemed like when people in town talked about "Valpo" they meant the high school and "VU" was the university. It's the failure to take into consideration of those types of things that makes me think this marketing plan wasn't thought out that well.
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Post by bbtds on Nov 17, 2010 0:12:28 GMT -5
How about Valpozone? The "ozone" part would touch on the Meteorology Dept. that's why my vote is for thunder Valpo Thunderzone? Very Meteorological! |
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Post by valpo76 on Nov 17, 2010 0:38:16 GMT -5
Irrational escalation (sometimes referred to as irrational escalation of commitment or commitment bias):
A term frequently used in psychology, philosophy, economics, and game theory to refer to a situation in which people can make irrational decisions to justify actions already taken. Translated: The same people that create a dehumanized, bland, liberal agenda-driven character that no one likes think they can change perceptions by initiating a silly "name this unpopular character" contest. Irrational escalation at its finest! If you made any attempt to get the facts, you'd have figured out that the group that created the new mascot is completely different from the one who was attempting to name it. Nearly every mascot I've ever seen has a name for reference purposes, so this process is not much of a surprise to me. I applaud the Student Division team that was considering naming the mascot for taking the time to gather input from various Valpo stakeholders. It appears the input they received is overwhelmingly in favor of not having a name for the mascot. We'll see what they decide to do given this feedback. |
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Post by milanmiracle on Nov 17, 2010 1:53:46 GMT -5
I think we should call IT, IT. Yep, that's my vote...IT
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Post by valporun on Nov 17, 2010 2:19:35 GMT -5
I'm starting to look at this as the "rebranding" that people were wanting after the Sweet 16 run. We're trying to do something now that is 12 years too late. In fact, it's almost like we're trying to brand ourselves just because President Heckler wants to make a name for himself now.
I remember hearing many people saying that we should have rebranded based on the success of the men's basketball program in the Mid-Con, when we were building our name. That's when a lot of you wanted this kind of rebranding to happen, not necessarily a rebranding that included a new mascot, but maybe new logos, and ways to refer to VU that people could see, and go, "That's Valpo/VU!"
I'll be honest, the logos would look cool on letterhead, t-shirts, coffee mugs, bookstore-sold backpacks, hats, and various inanimate objects. Sadly, this group thought that rebranding could work in a new mascot that wallks, moves, maybe dances or trips over itself (can it see out of that helmet?). As we've seen now, we don't like the walking/moving mascot, but we don't mind the logo changes because those aren't something that can move all over campus and look bad.
The cartoonish Crusader mascot works for athletics because the cameras dig the oofish, clumsy mascot that might do something to cause a ruckus, or have some fun with the kids. This more "guardian of our Lutheran values" Crusader doesn't strike fear in me at all. In fact, it makes me want to walk next to it, and lead it in a way that it doesn't walk into walls or into busy street traffic.
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