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Post by valpo89 on Sept 14, 2006 13:31:17 GMT -5
1995 sucked for the guys who were seniors that year (David Redmon and Lance Barker, to name two). It was no fault of their own. VU had already made a great turnaround the year before with a strong senior class (Schmidt, Cavanaugh, Beesley, Markworth and Gipson), and lost a heartbreaker to UIC in the Mid-Con semifinals. The Crusaders would have been competitive that season even with all the other teams. But with the changeover in the conference, bringing on essentially a new league which was Chicago State, Central Connecticut, NE Illinois, Buffalo and Troy State - NCAA rules stated that you didn't have to give the league an automatic bid. But yes, they were certainly hoping for a NIT bid, especially after a thrilling triple-OT win in the Mid-Con title game against Western Illinois.
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Post by stlvufan on Sept 17, 2006 14:30:55 GMT -5
On my tape of the 96 Mid-Con tourney final, ESPN2 shows clips of Bryce Drew talking about how the NIT was nice but we want to go to the NCAA. Since 2003 was the only year we went to the postseason NIT, that would have to have been preseason NIT, and I just assumed it was 1995. I see by the Men's Media Guide last year that it was indeed in 1996. They lost to Vanderbilt in the first round.
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Post by wh on Sept 18, 2006 11:07:04 GMT -5
ChuckA, please don't talk about The Defection. It is the duty of many religiously-affiliated private school fans to believe in conspiratorial forces acting to keep them down. Whether it's the ORU faithful believing their disappearance into the NAIA ranks for NCAA violations was the result of persecution or the Loyola legion believing that the HL tourney format is designed to exclude them from an NCAA berth, it must be done. Don't try to stop us. Ok, I'll bite... Why does Loyola feel that a tourney that gives homecourt advantage to higher seeded teams be "designed to exclude them from an NCAA berth?" Since seedings and home court advantage are based on final standings from league play, how can any one school be unfairly disadvantaged over the rest of the schools? What is their argument?
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Post by Valpower on Sept 18, 2006 11:26:11 GMT -5
ChuckA, please don't talk about The Defection. It is the duty of many religiously-affiliated private school fans to believe in conspiratorial forces acting to keep them down. Whether it's the ORU faithful believing their disappearance into the NAIA ranks for NCAA violations was the result of persecution or the Loyola legion believing that the HL tourney format is designed to exclude them from an NCAA berth, it must be done. Don't try to stop us. Ok, I'll bite... Why does Loyola feel that a tourney that gives homecourt advantage to higher seeded teams be "designed to exclude them from an NCAA berth?" Since seedings and home court advantage are based on final standings from league play, how can any one school be unfairly disadvantaged over the rest of the schools? What is their argument? I don't have an explanation for that. This was gleaned from a particular remark on the UWM board. I'm not sure whether it really was anything in particular about the tourney format, or more just a jab at the Loyola faithful suggesting that EVERYTHING is a conspiracy to them.
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Post by valporun on Sept 18, 2006 13:57:45 GMT -5
Valpower-- are you saying that the HL teams treat Loyola as though they are ORU for us? If that's the case, let's have a good rivalry with them and see what happens!! I'm stoked for this move to the HL and enjoy that they are giving us some respect by putting Valpo in their 06/07 prospectus.
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Post by chucka on Sept 19, 2006 9:55:20 GMT -5
...Ok, I'll bite... Why does Loyola feel that a tourney that gives homecourt advantage to higher seeded teams be "designed to exclude them from an NCAA berth?" Since seedings and home court advantage are based on final standings from league play, how can any one school be unfairly disadvantaged over the rest of the schools? What is their argument? Loyola is under the misguided impression that the officials calling the game are somehow directed by Commissioner Jon LeCrone to make bad calls against the Ramblers. It's all a conspiracy to keep them from attaining their glory years. There's always a reason (and not of Loyola's own doing) that the Ramblers lose a close game or a game in which they are called for 35 fouls and the HL opponent has only 15. Just wait until the season starts, you'll see, but it may not be as bad this year because they actually have the talent to win the Horizon.
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Post by wh on Sept 19, 2006 12:24:37 GMT -5
Loyola is under the misguided impression that the officials calling the game are somehow directed by Commissioner Jon LeCrone to make bad calls against the Ramblers. It's all a conspiracy to keep them from attaining their glory years. There's always a reason (and not of Loyola's own doing) that the Ramblers lose a close game or a game in which they are called for 35 fouls and the HL opponent has only 15. Just wait until the season starts, you'll see, but it may not be as bad this year because they actually have the talent to win the Horizon. Are you saying Loyola fans have an "external locus of control?"
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Post by bigd on Sept 19, 2006 15:01:31 GMT -5
There's always a reason (and not of Loyola's own doing) that the Ramblers lose a close game or a game in which they are called for 35 fouls and the HL opponent has only 15. Just wait until the season starts, you'll see, but it may not be as bad this year because they actually have the talent to win the Horizon. It could also be the exact opposite, Chuck. They have the talent to win the HL this year, but if they don't, it will be the HL's fault. Another example is that Loyola fans believe that the HL tourney format was changed because Loyola got too close to going to the NCAA a few years back when UIC beat them (both in the lower half of the conference that year) in the HL championship in Cleveland (where the entire tourney was held). The very next year, the HL switched to home-court advantage in the tourney ;D
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