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Post by wh on Jan 10, 2011 12:09:37 GMT -5
They all need a free throw lesson from an expert who knows HOW to teach the Valpo free throw method. Too bad we don't have someone on our coaching staff who actually grew up in the Valpo system. Better yet, someone who thrived using the the Valpo system, someone that the players would respect as a bona fide expert. Of course, I know I'm asking for a lot...
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Post by rlh on Jan 10, 2011 12:13:16 GMT -5
They all need a free throw lesson from an expert who knows HOW to teach the Valpo free throw method. Too bad we don't have someone on our coaching staff who actually grew up in the Valpo system. Better yet, someone who thrived using the the Valpo system, someone that the players would respect as a bona fide expert. Of course, I know I'm asking for a lot... I know you are being sarcastic, with Bryce sitting on the bench. By the way, I watched practice the other day, and Bryce was working with Erik on his free throws, showing him the proper way to hold the ball, site the rim, etc......Erik still missed 5 in a row....I had to leave, so I'm not sure if it got better or not.....also, Skip Collins in around if they want to have someone who really knows the Valpo System inside and out. He could probably be brought in to help if needed.
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Post by wh on Jan 10, 2011 12:31:07 GMT -5
Too bad we don't have someone on our coaching staff who actually grew up in the Valpo system. Better yet, someone who thrived using the the Valpo system, someone that the players would respect as a bona fide expert. Of course, I know I'm asking for a lot... I know you are being sarcastic, with Bryce sitting on the bench. By the way, I watched practice the other day, and Bryce was working with Erik on his free throws, showing him the proper way to hold the ball, site the rim, etc......Erik still missed 5 in a row....I had to leave, so I'm not sure if it got better or not.....also, Skip Collins in around if they want to have someone who really knows the Valpo System inside and out. He could probably be brought in to help if needed. Several years ago (when I used to exercise), I was at the ARC walking on the track in the summertime and saw Skip Collins working with Raitas Grafs. They were the only 2 on the floor. Some of you may recall that Raitas came in as a very bad-form free throw shooter - both toes on the line, held the ball above his head, etc. Skip was teaching him the classic VHS method - one toe on the line, slight forward lean, elbow in, limited arm motion, snapping the wrist, smooth release. Raitas hit shot after shot. It was a thing of beauty to watch (while I pretended I wasn't).
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Post by valpo89 on Jan 10, 2011 12:35:16 GMT -5
Bingo.
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Post by lowposter on Jan 10, 2011 18:36:10 GMT -5
Skip Collins is a free throw genius. Several years ago he gave an hour lesson to our AAU group of 7th/8th graders. We had a 7th grader that was probably a 40% shooter. Within the hour he was nailing them and from then on out was about 75% shooter. Eric (and others) have way too much motion in their FTs. It is all about minimum motion and muscle memory. lowposter
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Post by bbtds on Jan 10, 2011 22:05:28 GMT -5
Skip Collins is a free throw genius. Several years ago he gave an hour lesson to our AAU group of 7th/8th graders. We had a 7th grader that was probably a 40% shooter. Within the hour he was nailing them and from then on out was about 75% shooter. Eric (and others) have way too much motion in their FTs. It is all about minimum motion and muscle memory. lowposter A friend told me today that the Valpo High method of Free Throw shooting goes back to Virgil Sweet. It went hand in hand with the Valpo High method for putting on athletic socks also taught by Coach Sweet. I really think he is nuts but that is what he said.
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Post by chef on Jan 11, 2011 0:39:05 GMT -5
Virgil Sweet was the original guru. Skip learned from Virgil and passed it on during his years at VHS. If you look at the Valparaiso University FT percentage record book there's a common theme. Casey Schmidt is the single season record holder, while Cavanaugh, Redmon, Bryce, and Anselm are all in the all-time top ten.
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Post by valpofan56 on Jan 11, 2011 0:47:20 GMT -5
Virgil Sweet was the original guru. Skip learned from Virgil and passed it on during his years at VHS. If you look at the Valparaiso University FT percentage record book there's a common theme. Casey Schmidt is the single season record holder, while Cavanaugh, Redmon, Bryce, and Anselm are all in the all-time top ten. That's quite an impressive stat. Half of the top ten went to VHS. There's no way you could possibly call that coincidence.
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Post by valpo84 on Jan 11, 2011 3:57:46 GMT -5
BTW, when did Wood start arcing the ball so much on his FTs. His parabola seemed off on the first two.
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Post by agibson on Jan 11, 2011 4:06:47 GMT -5
BTW, when did Wood start arcing the ball so much on his FTs. His parabola seemed off on the first two. I agree! He seemed to have a ridiculously high arc on Sunday.
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Post by agibson on Jan 11, 2011 4:29:09 GMT -5
Speaking of poor free throw shooting. One of the Post Tribune columnists was venting about it recently. Virgil Sweet came up. The Crusaders did not. www.post-trib.com/sports/gorches/3007148,new-sgorches-ptb-0107.article No excuse for missing freebies Poor free-throw shooting is maddening at every level January 7, 2011 BY STEVE T. GORCHES
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Post by lowposter on Jan 11, 2011 11:44:34 GMT -5
Correct me if incorrect, but Bryce did NOT use the Valpo system for FTs. He moved into the system in 8th grade (IIRC) and they didnt touch his form. BTW, the book Green and White by John Knauff, an excellent look at the history of VHS boys basketball states (page 373) that Skip Collins tenure produced a .736 free throw % over 13 years. Virgil Sweet's teams were at .735 and Bob Punter @ .732. Skip Collins does live in Valpo...
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Post by valpo89 on Jan 11, 2011 11:59:48 GMT -5
You're right, Bryce moved to Valpo and repeated 7th grade when he moved here because he was so small. He turned 20, I believe, in May of 1994 just before he graduated from high school. So, you're right, he didn't go to Valpo basketball school where Skip Collins drilled the method for everyone. His free throw form is very similar to the Valpo style, and being the son of a college coach the high school coaches probably didn't want to mess with him. Good move, but most of the guys on this team need help.
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Post by humbleopinion on Jan 11, 2011 13:15:13 GMT -5
It's worth noting that it wasn't only the form that made the difference for free throws. If I remember correctly, Virgil had the boys shoot 100 before school, another 100 at lunch, and another one or two hundred each day at practice. At least one of the six baskets in Boucher Gym had a rim with a smaller diameter, so when the boys shot at a regular rim it seemed huge.
If a player made 100 free throws in a row, he was given a pair of green socks as a reward.
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Post by crusaderguy08 on Jan 11, 2011 14:15:41 GMT -5
This thread has me thinking back to my days in 5th through 8th grade, when my coaches taught a very defined free throw shooting mechanic as well. The saying they drilled into our head throughout those years was "Practice makes Permanent." They wanted that to be our thought process rather than what you normally hear, "Practice makes Perfect." They later expanded the saying to "Perfect practice makes perfect." The whole point of our coaches was, if you practice poor shooting form over and over, you aren't going to get any better. In fact you are going to permanently screw up your shot. You have to practice the proper form in order to get results. Sometimes I wonder when players and coaches (not just at Valpo, but everywhere at every level) say they shoot a lot of free throws in practice if they mean they are just drilling poor form but at high repetition. If that's the case, it doesn't surprise me that the results don't necessarily come. I just hope our guys are practicing perfectly rather that practicing for perfection.
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