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Post by valpo89 on Jan 11, 2011 14:21:11 GMT -5
This thread has me thinking back to my days in 5th through 8th grade, when my coaches taught a very defined free throw shooting mechanic as well. The saying they drilled into our head throughout those years was "Practice makes Permanent." They wanted that to be our thought process rather than what you normally hear, "Practice makes Perfect." They later expanded the saying to "Perfect practice makes perfect." The whole point of our coaches was, if you practice poor shooting form over and over, you aren't going to get any better. In fact you are going to permanently screw up your shot. You have to practice the proper form in order to get results. Sometimes I wonder when players and coaches (not just at Valpo, but everywhere at every level) say they shoot a lot of free throws in practice if they mean they are just drilling poor form but at high repetition. If that's the case, it doesn't surprise me that the results don't necessarily come. I just hope our guys are practicing perfectly rather that practicing for perfection. Excellent post 08. You said it better than I could have, that's exactly my point. If Erik Buggs shoots 100 awful free throws every day, it's not going to make him better. He'll just keep shooting with an awful form.
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Post by vu72 on Jan 12, 2011 12:50:07 GMT -5
Ego boost thread eh? Until we compete/beat a really good/great team (aka Butler/ CSU/Detroit) I will not believe in this team. Edit: Prospects are looking good though. Beat a good Oakland team. Well, valpo10 should now be a believer! crusadermoe wrote: wh predictions are a bit bold. Bigs were my key concern. Beating OU's Keith Benson at Oakland showed we might handle Eli Holman of Detroit. But I would say 6-3 at home (lose to CSU, Detroit, Butler) and 3-4 on the road (same 3 plus WSU). That yields 20-11 and 11-7 in league. So we beat CSU so presume moe is now on board also!!
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Post by crusadermoe on Jan 12, 2011 14:06:33 GMT -5
Yep. Warm up my seat on the bandwagon. Holman of Detroit could be a monster if he stays focused. But let's assume for now that he will fade in and out mentally and that Valpo can keep up this great momentum. If you subtract the Toledo loss, it is really hard to criticize this team's results at this point. The Oakland W got my attention.
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Post by wh on Jan 12, 2011 14:25:47 GMT -5
Ego boost thread eh? Until we compete/beat a really good/great team (aka Butler/ CSU/Detroit) I will not believe in this team. Edit: Prospects are looking good though. Beat a good Oakland team. Well, valpo10 should now be a believer! crusadermoe wrote: wh predictions are a bit bold. Bigs were my key concern. Beating OU's Keith Benson at Oakland showed we might handle Eli Holman of Detroit. But I would say 6-3 at home (lose to CSU, Detroit, Butler) and 3-4 on the road (same 3 plus WSU). That yields 20-11 and 11-7 in league. So we beat CSU so presume moe is now on board also!! Speaking of predictions coming true, I remember '72 took a lot of heat last year over on the children's board when he predicted that Cory Johnson would be a star in this league. Being from Minn., '72 knew more about Cory than anyone else and yet the Butler talent experts claimed Cory was nothing more than a reject from a bottom feeding Big 12 team. More than wanting to be right, they wanted '72 to be wrong. That's the Butler Way.
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Post by vu72 on Jan 16, 2011 15:37:52 GMT -5
I'll get on board if we win 4 of the next 5 games. My guess is 3-2 at best,but more likely 2-3. Go Valpo! We have a recliner ready for your old butt! Climb on up--slowly, of course!!
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Post by jj on Jan 16, 2011 15:52:25 GMT -5
Hell, I'm so pumped up that I just drove a golf ball over 225 yds. Haven't done that in years. GO VALPO!
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Post by crusaderguy08 on Jan 16, 2011 15:59:11 GMT -5
JJ, as much as you annoy me sometimes, you do make me laugh quite a bit as well. Welcome to the bandwagon!
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Post by valpo10 on Jan 16, 2011 17:13:15 GMT -5
Ego boost thread eh? Until we compete/beat a really good/great team (aka Butler/ CSU/Detroit) I will not believe in this team. Edit: Prospects are looking good though. Beat a good Oakland team. Well, valpo10 should now be a believer! crusadermoe wrote: wh predictions are a bit bold. Bigs were my key concern. Beating OU's Keith Benson at Oakland showed we might handle Eli Holman of Detroit. But I would say 6-3 at home (lose to CSU, Detroit, Butler) and 3-4 on the road (same 3 plus WSU). That yields 20-11 and 11-7 in league. So we beat CSU so presume moe is now on board also!! I said the prospects looked good But c'mon you cannot say you saw Valpo sweeping these games this weekend. I love it don't get me wrong, but really.
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Post by browntown on Jan 16, 2011 18:00:16 GMT -5
Ineed. Where are they? We're 4-1 on the road in conference, 2-0 at home. I like how that looks, especially considering we NEED to handle Butler at home to know this has been a step-up kind of year.
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Post by jerome1 on Jan 16, 2011 21:28:37 GMT -5
Well, valpo10 should now be a believer! crusadermoe wrote: wh predictions are a bit bold. Bigs were my key concern. Beating OU's Keith Benson at Oakland showed we might handle Eli Holman of Detroit. But I would say 6-3 at home (lose to CSU, Detroit, Butler) and 3-4 on the road (same 3 plus WSU). That yields 20-11 and 11-7 in league. So we beat CSU so presume moe is now on board also!! I said the prospects looked good But c'mon you cannot say you saw Valpo sweeping these games this weekend. I love it don't get me wrong, but really. I'll get on board if we win 4 of the next 5 games. My guess is 3-2 at best,but more likely 2-3. Go Valpo! You know what. I think this team is turning a corner. I believe we can beat Wright State and Detroit on the road. The Crusaders have actually accomplished this feat the first year Valpo played in the Horizon League. It was a great start to the beginning of the HL for Valpo. This team might even make some free throws in the stretch to win one of these games. Wouldn't that be unbelievable! From my experience when a team gets better at free throws at the end of games it's not because they use different players who have hit free throws in the past but it's because the players that have poor free throw percentages dedicate their extra time to free throws and get better at it. If you shoot so many free throws that your body actually memorizes the motion then it becomes automatic in game situations. No matter what part of the game you take your free throws. Check the dates. I think we give Toledo their first win and Valpo suffers a stinging defeat and reality sets in for the season. Valpo is very good but a let down game is bound to happen. The first half the Rockets get out to a big lead and the Crusaders come storming back but a missed lay-up by Cory Johnson, claiming he was fouled ends the game. Toledo 66 Valpo 65 Now who wants to talk about predictions?
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Post by milanmiracle on Jan 17, 2011 17:02:28 GMT -5
I've got to say that this team has surprised me, and I wouldn't have predicted being in first place at this point in the season. I expected they'd be better because of Broekoff and Kenney, but as of yet they haven't been the factor I thought they would. Granted they're having nice seasons, but I don't know if you would call either one a breakout star.
On another note, that Toledo loss may really come back to bite Valpo in the a$$.
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Post by wh on Jan 17, 2011 17:28:42 GMT -5
I've got to say that this team has surprised me, and I wouldn't have predicted being in first place at this point in the season. I expected they'd be better because of Broekoff and Kenney, but as of yet they haven't been the factor I thought they would. Granted they're having nice seasons, but I don't know if you would call either one a breakout star. On another note, that Toledo loss may really come back to bite Valpo in the a$$. Classic glass-half-empty comment in a glass-half-full moment. You must have been a Boy Scout when your were growing up, mm - always be prepared.
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Post by valpo89 on Jan 17, 2011 18:58:49 GMT -5
By the way, getting back to free throw shooting that was in this thread - when Buggs stepped to the line and hit both free throws late in the Detroit game, it suspiciously resembled the actual Valpo Free Throw method. Anyone else notice that?
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Post by rlh on Jan 17, 2011 19:25:30 GMT -5
By the way, getting back to free throw shooting that was in this thread - when Buggs stepped to the line and hit both free throws late in the Detroit game, it suspiciously resembled the actual Valpo Free Throw method. Anyone else notice that? I told you last week that I watched Bryce working with him one on one...it's not exactly the Virgil Sweet method, but placement of hands, sighting the rim, etc. looked just like what I saw Bryce working with him on....now if we could get our supposed better shooters hitting free throws, we'd have something
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Post by fwalum on Jan 18, 2011 1:49:27 GMT -5
....now if we could get our supposed better shooters hitting free throws, we'd have something Really surprised that Wood is having some problems with his free tosses. He is making only 63.2% in conference play and only 64.5% overall. I have noticed that from game to game his free throws seem to have a different trajectory. Hope he can get back on track. An 18% drop from one year to the next certainly seems unusual.
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