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Post by indyvalpo on Jan 8, 2011 9:56:38 GMT -5
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Post by valpospartan on Jan 8, 2011 20:05:33 GMT -5
FG % 44/33
3Pt % 29/14
PPG - 7.2/4.6
Doing alright? I don't think so.
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Post by wh on Jan 8, 2011 21:36:38 GMT -5
Of every former Valpo player still playing somewhere in the world, Jones is the absolute last one I am interested in seeing an update. He was a problem child when he was here, created chemistry problems for the coaching staff, violated team rules, broke the law, quit school half way through the spring semester before he flunked out, and trashed the coaching staff and program on his way out the door. Whether he's shooting 30% or 80% at some D-2 school somewhere is beyond meaningless.
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Post by valpofan56 on Jan 8, 2011 23:33:09 GMT -5
Of every former Valpo player still playing somewhere in the world, Jones is the absolute last one I am interested in seeing an update. He was a problem child when he was here, created chemistry problems for the coaching staff, violated team rules, broke the law, quit school half way through the spring semester before he flunked out, and trashed the coaching staff and program on his way out the door. Whether he's shooting 30% or 80% at some D-2 school somewhere is beyond meaningless. Couldn't agree more! |
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Post by vu75 on Jan 9, 2011 14:14:13 GMT -5
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Post by milanmiracle on Jan 12, 2011 2:19:14 GMT -5
Take all of the above mentioned out of the equation and he's STILL the absolute worst D1 basketball player I ever saw. I guess all you've told me is how bad D2 basketball really is if Logan Jones is a good player there. Yikes!
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Post by jerome1 on Jan 12, 2011 7:39:58 GMT -5
Take all of the above mentioned out of the equation and he's STILL the absolute worst D1 basketball player I ever saw. I guess all you've told me is how bad D2 basketball really is if Logan Jones is a good player there. Yikes! You never improved at anything? If you have watched UIndy over the years you would see that DII is pretty decent. I think that Logan Jones has probably got his head on a little straighter (notice no wild parties or drug or drinking problems while at North Idaho or Pitt State that have been documented) and got serious about basketball finally. He grew up a lot. Homer didn't have the time to wait for that and actually it was Jones that decided to leave. If I was the father of a recruit trying to decide on Valpo (and we know these fathers read this board-including Logan's father at one time) I would shy my son away from Valpo simply on the way Logan is treated by this board. If the fans won't support you through thick & thin then why even try. |
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Post by valpofan56 on Jan 12, 2011 8:10:37 GMT -5
Take all of the above mentioned out of the equation and he's STILL the absolute worst D1 basketball player I ever saw. I guess all you've told me is how bad D2 basketball really is if Logan Jones is a good player there. Yikes! You never improved at anything? If you have watched UIndy over the years you would see that DII is pretty decent. I think that Logan Jones has probably got his head on a little straighter (notice no wild parties or drug or drinking problems while at North Idaho or Pitt State that have been documented) and got serious about basketball finally. He grew up a lot. Homer didn't have the time to wait for that and actually it was Jones that decided to leave. If I was the father of a recruit trying to decide on Valpo (and we know these fathers read this board-including Logan's father at one time) I would shy my son away from Valpo simply on the way Logan is treated by this board. If the fans won't support you through thick & thin then why even try. I got a scholarship to go to Valpo, but over my four years there I and my parents still payed a lot of money in tuition, fees, room and board, etc. Logan Jones was given all of that, but instead basically stole the equivalent of $40,000+ from Valpo by not fulfilling the obligations of him as a student athlete. He will get absolutely no sympathy from me. |
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Post by jerome1 on Jan 12, 2011 8:58:03 GMT -5
You never improved at anything? If you have watched UIndy over the years you would see that DII is pretty decent. I think that Logan Jones has probably got his head on a little straighter (notice no wild parties or drug or drinking problems while at North Idaho or Pitt State that have been documented) and got serious about basketball finally. He grew up a lot. Homer didn't have the time to wait for that and actually it was Jones that decided to leave. If I was the father of a recruit trying to decide on Valpo (and we know these fathers read this board-including Logan's father at one time) I would shy my son away from Valpo simply on the way Logan is treated by this board. If the fans won't support you through thick & thin then why even try. I got a scholarship to go to Valpo, but over my four years there I and my parents still payed a lot of money in tuition, fees, room and board, etc. Logan Jones was given all of that, but instead basically stole the equivalent of $40,000+ from Valpo by not fulfilling the obligations of him as a student athlete. He will get absolutely no sympathy from me. Well, if that is the case then we have had many athletes stealing $40,000 a year from Valpo for 4 full years instead of just one. That is a very poor argument. Did Logan ever fail to attend practices or games, not go to class? |
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Post by vuweathernerd on Jan 12, 2011 8:59:05 GMT -5
Take all of the above mentioned out of the equation and he's STILL the absolute worst D1 basketball player I ever saw. I guess all you've told me is how bad D2 basketball really is if Logan Jones is a good player there. Yikes! You never improved at anything? If you have watched UIndy over the years you would see that DII is pretty decent. I think that Logan Jones has probably got his head on a little straighter (notice no wild parties or drug or drinking problems while at North Idaho or Pitt State that have been documented) and got serious about basketball finally. He grew up a lot. Homer didn't have the time to wait for that and actually it was Jones that decided to leave. If I was the father of a recruit trying to decide on Valpo (and we know these fathers read this board-including Logan's father at one time) I would shy my son away from Valpo simply on the way Logan is treated by this board. If the fans won't support you through thick & thin then why even try. not supporting our players? that's quite a stretch. jones brought this on himself by doing what he did and the repeated problems while at vu only prove that. if you read posts about other players, they are for the most part very supportive. do we get frustrated in game threads when a player might have a bad night and make terrible decisions? sure. but what fan doesn't? how many people here said 'get him the hell out of here' when chris halvorsen transferred, versus how many wished him all the best in his new adventure? sorry jerome, but i can't let that stand. any parent of a recruit knowing the backstory on logan's time at vu would understand why we were not sad to see him go, and should not hold that against the fan base. |
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Post by fwalum on Jan 12, 2011 9:38:26 GMT -5
Take all of the above mentioned out of the equation and he's STILL the absolute worst D1 basketball player I ever saw. I guess all you've told me is how bad D2 basketball really is if Logan Jones is a good player there. Yikes! You never improved at anything? If you have watched UIndy over the years you would see that DII is pretty decent. I think that Logan Jones has probably got his head on a little straighter (notice no wild parties or drug or drinking problems while at North Idaho or Pitt State that have been documented) and got serious about basketball finally. He grew up a lot. Homer didn't have the time to wait for that and actually it was Jones that decided to leave. If I was the father of a recruit trying to decide on Valpo (and we know these fathers read this board-including Logan's father at one time) I would shy my son away from Valpo simply on the way Logan is treated by this board. If the fans won't support you through thick & thin then why even try. I don't know how many basketball forums you frequent, but as has been mentioned here by posters from other boards on many occasions, this is one of the most civil forums out there on the net. This forum often gets criticized for its lack of program, player and coach scrutiny (drinking the brown and gold koolaid). Logan would have gotten much worse on almost any other board. For the most part posters on this board realize that these young men are at very formative points in their lives and that the vitriol spewed out on many forums has no constructive value for the player or the program, a fact we can be proud of IMHO. |
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Post by jerome1 on Jan 12, 2011 12:31:53 GMT -5
I just thought we should acknowledge that currently Logan Jones is not ALL bad as a basketball player as he was when he was at Valpo. We all know people improve from freshman to senior year. I realize now that this board treats student athletes better than other schools boards and should not be held accountable for any treatment of any student athlete. I apologize for even bringing it up. I got a scholarship to go to Valpo, but over my four years there I and my parents still payed a lot of money in tuition, fees, room and board, etc. Logan Jones was given all of that, but instead basically stole the equivalent of $40,000+ from Valpo by not fulfilling the obligations of him as a student athlete. He will get absolutely no sympathy from me. Take all of the above mentioned out of the equation and he's STILL the absolute worst D1 basketball player I ever saw. I guess all you've told me is how bad D2 basketball really is if Logan Jones is a good player there. Yikes! Of every former Valpo player still playing somewhere in the world, Jones is the absolute last one I am interested in seeing an update. He was a problem child when he was here, created chemistry problems for the coaching staff, violated team rules, broke the law, quit school half way through the spring semester before he flunked out, and trashed the coaching staff and program on his way out the door. Whether he's shooting 30% or 80% at some D-2 school somewhere is beyond meaningless. Brown and gold colored glasses towards this board is not good either. |
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Post by milanmiracle on Jan 12, 2011 23:00:40 GMT -5
Take all of the above mentioned out of the equation and he's STILL the absolute worst D1 basketball player I ever saw. I guess all you've told me is how bad D2 basketball really is if Logan Jones is a good player there. Yikes! You never improved at anything? If you have watched UIndy over the years you would see that DII is pretty decent. I think that Logan Jones has probably got his head on a little straighter (notice no wild parties or drug or drinking problems while at North Idaho or Pitt State that have been documented) and got serious about basketball finally. He grew up a lot. Homer didn't have the time to wait for that and actually it was Jones that decided to leave. If I was the father of a recruit trying to decide on Valpo (and we know these fathers read this board-including Logan's father at one time) I would shy my son away from Valpo simply on the way Logan is treated by this board. If the fans won't support you through thick & thin then why even try. Okay, I'll bite. Have I improved at anything? Sure, absolutely. However I didn't get scholarship money to do it. This can come off as mean, cruel, or whatever, but when I saw him play a few games I called some of my friends who played college basketball and told them to watch VU and Logan. The whole assessment of Logan was not only was he not a D1 player, but he was barely an NAIA player. He stank, plain and simple. He made mistakes you don't make in middle school and he did it on a D1 level. For example there were numerous times he trapped himself for no particular reason. He'd back the ball out, somehow get himself pinned between the sideline and the half court line and pick up his dribble when he panicked from minimal ball pressure. Now, you throw in the off court stuff on top of that and why would anybody here care what he did or did not turn out to be? Oh, and I have not seen U of Indy lately, but I know they were good enough to beat Valpo in the preseason last year. And somebody here brought up Chris Halvorsen, who has since transfered to Minnesota. While I wasn't upset he left, I also wasn't doing the happy dance of joy either. I wish him the best in his career playing for Tubby. When Logan left I was happy for the program because they are better off without him. |
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Post by lowposter on Jan 13, 2011 8:04:08 GMT -5
D2 basketball is a pretty high level. Let's not go knocking these programs. It is all about finding a level which one is comfortable, can compete, make contributions, and achieve personal growth.
It wasnt going to happen at VU.
I wish him well at his school. Our society needs productive members. Three schools in three years should have been a wake up call for him.
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Post by milanmiracle on Jan 14, 2011 18:36:27 GMT -5
D2 basketball is a pretty high level. Let's not go knocking these programs. It is all about finding a level which one is comfortable, can compete, make contributions, and achieve personal growth. It wasnt going to happen at VU. I wish him well at his school. Our society needs productive members. Three schools in three years should have been a wake up call for him. lowposter For the record I am not knocking D2 or NAIA basketball in the slightest. |
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